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Bike_craze1
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 22 Oct 2008    Post subject: How do you get CAT's out of your exhaust? Reply with quote
Theres 3 CAT's in my Yamaha YZF R125 and I wanna get them out so the bike will go as fast as it can. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 22 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
wave a piece of fish by the exit ??
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PostPosted: 00:58 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Removing cat's won't make it go any faster....
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PostPosted: 01:14 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
NiteMare wrote:
wave a piece of fish by the exit ??

Like this?
https://www.okas.co.uk/stuff/fish.jpg
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PostPosted: 06:52 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
So many sarcastic comments haha.
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PostPosted: 09:04 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: How do you get CAT's out of your exhaust? Reply with quote
Bike_craze1 wrote:
Theres 3 CAT's in my Yamaha YZF R125 and I wanna get them out so the bike will go as fast as it can. Very Happy


You can't. You must either replace the cat sections with decat pipes, or in the case of a bike with three cats, I'd say you need to replace the whole exhaust for a sports item.

However, this will cause damage to your bike (and I mean severe engine damage) unless you also remap the fuel injection. Preferably with the bike set up on a dyno.

The issue you have with cats is that they make the airflow so slow that the bike runs quite rich, so it is mapped very lean. The race exhaust will lean off the mixture to such an extent that it will damage the bike to run it like that.
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Mate you brought a 4 stroke 125 and your asking for more speed. Thats your problem. Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: How do you get CAT's out of your exhaust? Reply with quote
Bike_craze1 wrote:
Theres 3 CAT's in my Yamaha YZF R125 and I wanna get them out so the bike will go as fast as it can. Very Happy


Shouldn't of bought an abomination of a bike then... Sports 4 stroke, PMSL.

It's like one of those 3 pot corsa's with a full bodykit.
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Those cats are there for a reason. Without them the bike will fail emissions tests. They are also hugely expensive to replace and incredibly fragile. I wouldn't touch them.

If you want faster, sell it, buy an NSR, and spend the rest on hookers and two-stroke oil Laughing

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PostPosted: 09:27 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tuna??
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bike_craze1 wrote:
So many sarcastic comments haha.


But you keep asking the same questions, the answer being the same, it won't go any faster no matter how you dump the clutch, change gears near the red line or change the exhaust.

Its a 125cc 4t bike, you paid your money now live with it or sell up.
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PostPosted: 09:54 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
TheBassJunky wrote:
Those cats are there for a reason. Without them the bike will fail emissions tests.


What emission test?
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PostPosted: 03:54 - 24 Oct 2008    Post subject: Re: How do you get CAT's out of your exhaust? Reply with quote
MarJay wrote:
The issue you have with cats is that they make the airflow so slow that the bike runs quite rich, so it is mapped very lean.

In the US cat equipped bikes are mapped to run richer than none-cat bikes.. owing to the cats cleaning up the emissions so you can run richer than a non-cat variety...
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PostPosted: 04:54 - 24 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Finglonga wrote:
TheBassJunky wrote:
Those cats are there for a reason. Without them the bike will fail emissions tests.


What emission test?


Quite.

There is no emissions test on the motorcycle MOT.
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PostPosted: 07:17 - 24 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just wait until one of the major aftermarket exhaust firms, starts making a performace system and race can for it, because they will! Then ideally id wait until someone else has fitted such a system and had the bike dyno'd after, to see what the gains are like and if the ECU copes with the fuelling ok. Seeing as the YZF125R is likely to be a big seller, then you will probably be able to soon buy performance air filter's and even power commanders/piggy back ECU's for them. If it's worth spending that kind of money is highly doubtful, but i did read somewhere in a magazine, that the new Yamaha/Minarelli 125 4valve motor is capable of around 20bhp, which sounds feasible if it's already making 15bhp, and has a restrictive emmission friendly exhaust system etc.
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Cigaro
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PostPosted: 07:19 - 24 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Big_Ham wrote:


There is no emissions test on the motorcycle MOT.


There may not be yet, but I believe it's not far off.
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 24 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
TheBassJunky wrote:
Big_Ham wrote:


There is no emissions test on the motorcycle MOT.


There may not be yet, but I believe it's not far off.


On which bikes?

Need to bear in mind the numbers of people that don't ride euro III complient bikes. Myself included.

If you set the level so that those bikes can pass then you'll still be able to de-cat. If you set the level so only euro III bikes can pass they'd be national outcry and loads of centres fiddling it. In any case you'll still be able to get centres fiddling it much like you can with car places.
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PostPosted: 09:24 - 24 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Surely it'll be the same as cars. Newer ones will get more stringent tests.

I'm sure the emissions tests are different for a 2008 fuel injected car than a 1985 carbed one.
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 24 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Big_Ham wrote:
Quite.

There is no emissions test on the motorcycle MOT.


As far as I'm aware they've got to pass emission tests to get type approval though, hence the big ugly twin pipes on the GSXR1000 etc...

(Will try to find link to this)
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 24 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think theres emission testing on new bikes out of the factory as laid down by the eu on emissions, but nothing on the mot to enforce them. Just a check so that it came out of the factory being as clean as it can be enviroment wise?
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 24 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Or you could try a dog in your block ??
just a thought
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 25 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote
Davo wrote:


As far as I'm aware they've got to pass emission tests to get type approval though, hence the big ugly twin pipes on the GSXR1000 etc...

(Will try to find link to this)


Yeah, they have to pass emissions tests to get the bike approved for sale. Nothing stops you decatting it afterwards though. Provided it's out of warrenty since decatting will obviously invalidate it.
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