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rac3r
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 20 Oct 2008    Post subject: 2k to spend on my second bike... Reply with quote

On rainy days like this i always end up looking at what bike i want after i pass my A2. Through my other posts i have narrowed it down to a couple of bikes. With my 2k rough budget i could get either a

2000 or older ZX6

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an old Hornet 6

I like both bikes but being me i like the ZX6 more. I wouldn't mind getting a Hornet but for some reason it doesn't fully appeal to me just as my current bike doesn't. Dont get me wrong they are great bikes but i'm not a real fan of the naked bikes (apart from the new Hornet). If i buy the Hornet it would be because of other people's recommendations and not because i really want it. What would you get?

ps the restriction will probably stay in for the full 2 years Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 20 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends what kind of roads I was riding.

In London and windy, back roads, the hornet. Great bike, great engine but has a crap tank range.

If I had to use Main A roads and motorways on a regular basis, then I'd take the zx-6r. Great engine, lovely induction noise and can be very economical when required (on my first ride, I got 65mpg! But I was crawling along at ~65mph)

I've had both. Build quality on either isn't great. I'd love another hornet but the crap tank range (about 100-110 miles max. on an early one) means the kwacker wins it for me. I've had 2 J1 ninjas and 1 98' hornet, whichever one you go for, you won't be disappointed.
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 20 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

My recommendation, Ninja G2 (99).

Mods to make would be to replace the front springs with nicer ones and something else I got told but can't remember, will post it up when I do.
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 20 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer the J1 because of the twin headlight look Smile
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 20 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

rac3r wrote:
I prefer the J1 because of the twin headlight look Smile


Same. Hold on for a bit for the prices to drop. Should be able to pick one up for £1700, lowish mileage.
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 20 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the seat hight like compared to my CBR or RS? because i still want my feet to touch the floor in case things get a bit wobbly at low speeds Embarassed until i get used to it.
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 20 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd get the hornet, they rock! Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 20 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
I'd get the hornet, they rock! Laughing


I was waiting for that Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 20 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I've got a reputation to maintain. Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 20 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

instigator - i've just been reading about the firestorm (im hoping thats what is in your display pic Wink ) what are they like? Been reading and they seem to be a good 'first big bike', bit worried on the size and weight though (i'm 5'10ish and 9 stoneish) and also that or the ninja?

Thanks for the help guys!
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 20 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

rac3r wrote:
instigator - i've just been reading about the firestorm (im hoping thats what is in your display pic Wink ) what are they like? Been reading and they seem to be a good 'first big bike', bit worried on the size and weight though (i'm 5'10ish and 9 stoneish) and also that or the ninja?

Thanks for the help guys!


I had the 'storm' just after my ninja. Different beasty altogether but they're probably equal in terms of speed and acceleration with the ninja being the lighter and the quicker steering. Firestorms are quite heavy but are very easy to ride. If it's your first 'big' bike and your first v-twin then I'd be very careful when riding in the winter.

The firestorm, again, only had a 100 mile tank range which, if you can live with, is fine. Smile

I couldn't pick one over the other as I liked then for different reasons. I'd quite happily have another hornet/ninja/storm but I know fine well I'd want something different after a few months, if that. Compulsive buyer/seller me. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 20 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well now its down to the Storm or the ninja but i'll have to go see them for real and also run some insurance quotes. I'm kind of leaning more towards the ninja though, really like them Smile

Thanks for the help, much appreciated
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 20 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not an r6.

If not zx 6r G2 FTW Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 20 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

rac3r wrote:
What is the seat hight like compared to my CBR or RS? because i still want my feet to touch the floor in case things get a bit wobbly at low speeds Embarassed until i get used to it.


My NSR125 has a seat height of 800mm and my ZX6R F3 has a seat height of 810mm, so not much difference really and I can flat foot both feet on the floor easily, I'm 5' 9" ish too, the only thing I think I'll need to get used to is the extra 50KG in weight the ZX6R carries Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 21 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

An R6 would be nice but insurance and higher costs make it difficult and also the fact people are saying the Ninja would be better for me, so i will wait a while and one day while and buy an R6 which has the YCCI Twisted Evil

Im sure i'll get used to the weight but as i said it makes it easier to be able to touch the floor Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 21 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

J1?

But the G2 has a double chin! Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 22 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

J1's are good bikes, and as for a zx over a firestorm it's all down to budget and personal preference.

I like my J2 but I would have prefered a Firestorm, but now I have to ride it everyday I'm glad I'm saving a bit on fuel Thumbs Up

Just to let you know my tatty J2 was £1600 so keep your eyes peeled as theres a few about!

The only reason I prefered the Storm was the V-twin noise. But then the zx doesnt sound bad at all (kwak induction noise is damn good!).

Get a test ride on each if you can (not easy I know) and see what works for you.
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 22 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will probably be the ZX6 because thats the one i really like Smile

Now i just need to get my fookin test done Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you considered a CBR600F, or a K1/SRAD?
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really. Not a fan of the SRAD and prefer the Ninja over the 600f but how would the K1 compare?
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

rac3r wrote:
Not really. Not a fan of the SRAD and prefer the Ninja over the 600f but how would the K1 compare?


K1 more expensive. Slightly. I rode a lovely rizla rep K1 600 against a zx6r and the zx6r trounced over that one for mid range i.e where I sit most of the time. Might just have been set up incorrectly.

Just pick whichever one you like the best, you won't be disappointed to be honest.
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm more than happy with my F3 ZX6R. The G/J's are lighter but i found the F a whole lot roomier. Kwak 6's are very frugal, i seem to be getting about 50mph if i'm held at 80mph down the M1. I did about 150 to reserve once. Generally, i'll be looking at 120 miles til reserve so about 140 to the tank on a blast.

Funnily enough, nobody would believe that my bike is a 1996/7 Reg. The F's are a lot boxier, and bits WILL need replacing - usually suspension parts. Just fitted a hagon shock to my bike and I'm happy with how it performs.

That said, you can pick up F's with about 20-40k miles for a grand which is peanuts. If it weren't for my crash, the F1-3's are good bikes and generally cheap to run. Great for 300-400 mile days.
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 23 Oct 2008    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your looking at a Hornet purely because other people have recommended it, i'd say ster clear.

Buy th bike YOU want. I was being pushed towards getting a brand new GS500f instead of a proper sports bike. I stuck to my guns, and ended up with a CBR600f Cool I would never have been happy if i'd bought that gs, even if it was a bargain offer.

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