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Itchy
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Quit or be fired? Reply with quote

Out of two bad outcomes which is best?...


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PostPosted: 13:07 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Difficult one.

If it really is BS and you don't think you can get a job pretty easily afterwards then I would be inclined to wait until they try and fire you (and gather as much evidence as you can until then) then get them for unfair dismissal.

It might make it harder to get a job, but it doesn't appear that you really want to get one locally.

All the best

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PostPosted: 13:48 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

if what you say is true then dont quit, chances are when you prove them wrong they will dismiss the whole situation, if not and they continue to sack you take them to court for unfair dismissal like keith says and sue there asses off, i had trouble like this at work they said either hand in your notice or your sacked, i knew i was in the right so went along to the meeting, i spoke before they got the chance and my meeting to fire me ended up on bein thanked for my service to the company. Confused
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just as a note, our company's IT policy (yours might be different) says that you shouldn't be browsing anything non-work related at any time on any company computers, so they may have you on that one. Although if it were to go to court I'm pretty sure you could get out of it by mentioning what hours you were browsing.

Do you know if they have any web monitoring/filtering in use which could have logged the sites you visit?
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarkJ wrote:
Just as anote, our company's IT policy (yours might be different) says that you shouldn't be browsing anything non-work related at any time on any company computers, so they may have you on that one. Although if it were to go to court I'm pretty sure you could get out of it by mentioning what hours you were browsing.

Do you know if they have any web monitoring/filtering in use which could have logged the sites you visit?



And thats it, I leave BCF posts and other posts till lunch time, it goes by the clock
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like you'll be OK in that respect then Thumbs Up

They could bring up BCF, but I can't see just that alone being a sackable offence. We have sacked people at our place for internet usage but they've been taking the piss. If they do bring up internet usage at this meeting then ask for the logs.
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trust me. You don't want to be looking for work for 3 months at the moment.
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:
Trust me. You don't want to be looking for work for 3 months at the moment.


but as said the end result is the same out of a Job by next saturday , it just means I'll spend 2-4 weeks doing up the Africa and or looking for alternatives to it if that is possible.

And leave earlier , if I leave earlier I do the trip backwards so that I reach siberia in August/Sept 2009 which is the end of the summer time for Siberia which means the muddy tracks have hardened and the rivers will be much lower.
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your single without any financial commitments what a great opportunity, since you know the partners are going to get rid of you one way or another. the opportunity to go in and tell them to shove there head up each others arse along with your job.sorted and a new start after your trip. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 10 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

FZX-er wrote:
If your single without any financial commitments what a great opportunity, since you know the partners are going to get rid of you one way or another. the opportunity to go in and tell them to shove there head up each others arse along with your job.sorted and a new start after your trip. Thumbs Up


That sounds like the worst idea since the viking warlord Olaf the hairy ordered twenty thousand helmets with the horns on the inside.

If he tells them to shove it, he's got no opportunity to go to a tribunal or anything. Personally I'd let them sack me and then take them straight to tribunal. That'll learn 'em, and he could get a fair old wodge of compensation too...
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PostPosted: 00:48 - 11 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know your situation, tbh, so can't offer any concrete advice.

If you're definitely going to be sacked, though, it almost becomes a moral dilemma: better to be sacked so that you can claim jsa or better to quit to avoid the stigma of a firing on a cv? There's no easy answer because the outcome, for both, is shit and it's really a case of which "silver lining" are you hankering after?

Unemployment is the shittest thing ever. I signed on for a few months (genuine reasons which I won't disclose) and I can tell you, it's very depressing. Every other week the job centre staff have a way of making you feel like a right loser whilst offering no help. The staff at the job centre seem to be great at tolerating layabouts but useless at helping people find work.

So, if you're losing your job either way, I'd be inclined to just toss a coin, let that make the decision for you, see it through and forget about it. A silver lining isn't anything to bust your own balls over: becuase it's impact on your life is marginal. You're just, as we all do, getting tangled up in the small print. Quit or be fired, it's still the same outcome. Instead focus on where you're going next, get applying for jobs now, sidestep the miserable hole of unemployment before it digs itself deeper and deeper and sucks you in.
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 11 Jan 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
And thats it, I leave BCF posts and other posts till lunch time, it goes by the clock


Hope they don't track your BCF usage and read this then.......

If you are ever posting to a forum while on a work PC make sure its got nothing to do with work issues.....
Also at times like this, i would avoid accessing sites where you are posting stuff about what you might do and looking for advice.

All you are doing is giving them a heads up to what you are thinking.

To really have a solid case for unfair dismissal you would need someone else from work to back your side of the story... Not a easy task, if they are still going to be working for the company.
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