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 Posted: 00:05 - 14 Feb 2009 Post subject: HOW many MPG?! (25-30?!?!)(sv650s) |
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OK so since getting the SV I've been trying to keep vague track of mileage vs. filling up, trying to get a feel of riding the bike...and so far, not so good!
I must be riding this bike wrong, or something must be awry with fuelling, but essentially, last refuel I did it as soon as possible after reserve light was flashing (lets say within 10 miles probably more like 5) and put 10 litres of petrol in....
And my reserve light is flashing again after trip reads 55.4 miles!
So...worst estimates, we're looking at 55 miles per 10 litres, or ~25mpg....best estimates, 65 miles per 10 litres, ~30mpg!
I was led to believe with an SV this would be looking more towards 40? 45 on a good day?
Mitigating circumstances:
With it being so COLD I've been running engine on choke for ~10-30seconds from start just about every time I ride
Most rides are 5-15 mins in town, I accelerate too quickly and brake too hard (despite my best efforts to follow roadcraft..)
Could these factors be enough to be raping my mpg? What can I do to get this BEAST under control? I dont like having worse MPG than an Integra Type R
If there was a fuelling problem, would there be other symptoms? Exhaust is clean, not much carbon buildup etc.... What should I be looking for? Or should I look inwards, and at riding style? Or somewhere between the two? OH BCF HELP ME! ____________________ Past: 96 P Aprilia RS125 - 97 R Honda CB500 | Current: 00 W Suzuki SV650s
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I think your problem is that you're taking short runs on cold days. Bikes only make their best fuel consumption when taken on a long journey. 5-15 minute journeys through town are the sort of circumstances where your fuel consumption will be worst (stopping and starting etc).
If you were to go for a long journey you would probably find that you would last a lot longer before you hit the reserve. For instance, my bike is a 750. I put about 18 litres in to fill it up from the reserve.
Taking three 50 mile journeys with my friends on 125s, I clocked up 150 miles and didn't even hit the reserve before I filled up.
A motorway thrash at 100+mph followed by twisty backlanes and spirited riding I got from a full tank (in Bolton) to completely empty in 140 miles (ran the tank out in Louth, Lincolnshire and had to call out the AA to fill me up ).
Using my bike purely to get to town on (20 minute seven mile journey through a couple of traffic lights and lots of stopping and starting) I hit the reserve in 115 miles.
If you get bad fuel economy on a long run too, then I would be worried. Until then, I wouldn't sweat too much. There's a lot of variable factors. 5-15 minute blats through town in the cold really don't help, but things like leaving the choke on for 30 seconds don't make a titsworth of difference. Nothing to worry about there .
If you're still worried, check for possible causes.
Is the bike running rich (sounds like the choke is still on, you can smell a lot of unburnt fuel coming out of the exhaust).
Is your chain loose.
Are your tyres flat. ____________________ H100 Breaking for spares |
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How aerodynamic are you though as this also matters.
As in my tour post on leaving day riding down the M6 at high speed my luggage was deadly flappy and I was wearing my flappier water proofs and it was also cold, I was emptying a 19 litre tank in 100 miles. Granted I am heavy on the throttle anyway it was windy and rainy.
On the way back when it was warmer and I had lost most of my luggage and was riding back in leathers which are more aerodynamic and also tied my hair back, I was emptying a tank every 180 miles and filled up only once on the way back to Manchester. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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In your 5-15min rides how far are you going?? If of those 15 mins 14 of them are sat stationary in traffic/at lights then its no wonder you get carp MPG as .. well the engine is running for a long time and yet only covering 3 yards!! ... basically I could imagine in congestion where you are not filtering your average speed will may be summin like 2mph ... so 1hr running and only 2 miles covered ... that is not really going to give you good MPG is it
Have you tried using the bike on a clear run?
At a constant 60-70 (motorway) you should get ~45. Commuting where you can average 30mph ~40mpg.
Backroad blatting ~40mpg.
From full, at best I get 110 miles before the first fuel light, at worst ~85.
Under those conditions, if you are NOT getting figures aprox like that, then you have something wrong. ____________________ The purpose of life is to fight maturity. |
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Both my big twins are in a similar boat, on the Futura I would see as little as 120 miles out of 15 or so litres in town on short commutes, whereas on motorways and dual carriageways I'd easily see at least 200 miles before the fuel light came on.
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 Posted: 22:21 - 15 Feb 2009 Post subject: Re: HOW many MPG?! (25-30?!?!)(sv650s) |
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So...worst estimates, we're looking at 55 miles per 10 litres, or ~25mpg....best estimates, 65 miles per 10 litres, ~30mpg!
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That's very low! My commute is 24miles each way, so not a short journey. It's also mixed, the start and finish being through traffic while the middle is a fast moving 'country' A road.
When I ran it [600cc Bandit] to reserve the trip counter showed 100 miles, so I now fill up every 90ish miles. This typically costs about £7, but can be as high as £9 if I've pushed it close to the 100mile mark.
Putting those kind of figures into an MPG calculator it looks like I am seeing between 40 and 50mpg, which is what I would expect. Only marginally better than the Mini, but then it's engine is only slightly bigger.  |
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My SV is about £10 to 100 miles at the current prices. Which is 12 litres or 2 2/3 gallons which comes out at 38 mpg. Not bad but i've seen about 43mpg out of her. I'm not very easy on the throttle as you can see. ____________________ Past - CG125 ,KR1S, SV650s, Street Triple R - Current - Duke 390
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8 miles a day of commuting sees me get 110 miles out of a tank on the cbr600f... spurty stop start riding. Same riding with baffles in, 119 miles out of a tank. Same riding with baffles in, but back brake binding like u wouldn't believe - 70 out of a tank.
When I went to Wales 2-up, fully loaded with luggage, I averaged 175 out of a tank... smooth n' steady due to girly on the rear.... baffle in.
Went to Scotland solo with luggage, managed 150 out of a tank... rode like a lunatic for the duration... no baffle.
Ridiculous amount of factors determine your mpg. I just stopped trying... ____________________ FAB-Racing MiniMotoSidecars - Back with a vengeance - F1 Class 2011...
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Once you know approx. what MPG you get for 'average' riding, it will become instinctive by how you are riding what sort of MPG / mileage you are going to make. You just have to ride 'controlled' once to get a decent benchmark.
PS. It annoys me when people compare £££ to miles, prices vary so much and people never fill up with the same ammount it's an absolutely useless measurement !!!  ____________________ CBR125R '05 > CB500 '00 > CBR600F '99 |
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ok I brimmed tank, rode on trip meter, brimmed tank again when light flashed
this was 2/3 town riding 1/3 hooning yesterday on beautiful day (B road hooning mostly, YAY for Strines road )
I got.... 108.3 miles out of 14.03 litres :S
This equates to 35.1 MPG....
So I reckon I need to look at things like...air filter? I'm sure from time to time I can smell unburnt fuel, any ideas/clues on that one? ____________________ Past: 96 P Aprilia RS125 - 97 R Honda CB500 | Current: 00 W Suzuki SV650s
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Old Thread Alert!
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