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PostPosted: 22:47 - 07 Mar 2009    Post subject: Binned it :( Reply with quote

Went out tonight to pick up a friend, put too much power down round a corner on a surface that was slippier than I thought and went into a ditch at about 50mph.

I knew I was going to crash as soon as it started fishtailing on the bend, went onto the other side of the road, went accross the grass for about 5m (I'd straightened out a little by this point so I was almost riding parralel with the ditch but not by enough) and then the next thing I know I'm in a ditch eating thorns and stingers.

Got up, crawled out of the ditch to find some really helpful lady who'd seen it and stopped. She must have been pretty relieved to watch me stumble out the hedges because it was a pretty nasty off.

Ambulance said I'd be ok to go home and rest, just bruises (I didn't even really want to ring them but the woman did it for me, and they had a car nearby). Right now the stinging nettle stings on my left wrist are bugging me more than my knee, which is a little brusied and swollen. It's probably going to hurt a lot tommorow though.

Pretty good considering I was wearing trainers and jeans. Note to self; short journeys do not mean trainers are cool (even though my feet are ok). Jeans look sweet though, by the looks of the mud stains I managed to land right on my kneecap.

Anyway, I'm laughing about it now. The financial implications havn't sunk in yet.


Thumbs Up Pictures to come once it's recovered.

Edit: Police have been round. Totally unsympathetic "can we see your documents". Just renewed my insurance too so I didn't have any paperwork and it was coming up on their system as uninsured. Producer - they wanna see Licence, Insurance, Test Cert and Restriction certificate within 7 days.

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PostPosted: 23:03 - 07 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear this, but

Nice lady! Send her a box of chocs, we need all the sympathy we can get

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PostPosted: 23:15 - 07 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You lucky lucky man.
Glad you're ok and glad you're sussing the errs of your ways Wink

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PostPosted: 23:57 - 07 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

is it restricted?
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Re: Binned it :( Reply with quote

spike_Alike wrote:
Police have been round. Totally unsympathetic "can we see your documents". Just renewed my insurance too so I didn't have any paperwork and it was coming up on their system as uninsured. Producer - they wanna see Licence, Insurance, Test Cert and Restriction certificate within 7 days.


WTF has it got to do with them? No one else was involved unless I miss read the post.

At least you're OK.

If anyone has an off like this poor f*cker did, get someone else to call the ambulance, I've heard they can bill you for it if you call it yourself and noone else is envoled. But that could be wrong? Just a thought.
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PostPosted: 00:22 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Re: Binned it :( Reply with quote

flip wrote:
spike_Alike wrote:
Police have been round. Totally unsympathetic "can we see your documents". Just renewed my insurance too so I didn't have any paperwork and it was coming up on their system as uninsured. Producer - they wanna see Licence, Insurance, Test Cert and Restriction certificate within 7 days.


WTF has it got to do with them? No one else was involved unless I miss read the post.

At least you're OK.

If anyone has an off like this poor f*cker did, get someone else to call the ambulance, I've heard they can bill you for it if you call it yourself and noone else is envoled. But that could be wrong? Just a thought.


No idea why they came over. No-one else was involved except for the woman who was following me and saw it (she had nothing to do with the crash, just watched it). She only called the ambulance though. I think it's because in their eyes it was uninsured because it didn't come up on their system.

Half life, it's not restricted but I told them I have a certificate upstairs (which I do) and they said to bring it to the station. I didn't mention restriction obviously untill they did. I think it'll be enough for them. I was pretty convincing when I told them it was restricted.

Oh, and I know I'm lucky. We fished the bike out of the hedge and it's ok except for a few scratches. It landed on a tyre in the ditch which I think softened the blow, and the ditch itself was fairly damn and soft. It started right away and my uncle rode it home for me. I honestly have no idea how both myself and the bike came out so well.

Lesson learned though. Going back to the road it had a really shitty surface and was slippy just to walk on.

Anyway, I'm editing the pictures into the OP now Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

insurance they can check on the phone roadside even if you show up as no insurance tell them the company and they can do it there and then,sounds like they are being awkward.
license and mot are standard producer docs(even thogh they can check em roadside online).
restriction cert? is that even a legal requirement?
now your bike may have to be restricted but dont they have to prove it isnt rather than you have to prove it is.
could be wrong.
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PostPosted: 00:32 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

wristjob wrote:
insurance they can check on the phone roadside even if you show up as no insurance tell them the company and they can do it there and then,sounds like they are being awkward.
license and mot are standard producer docs(even thogh they can check em roadside online).
restriction cert? is that even a legal requirement?
now your bike may have to be restricted but dont they have to prove it isnt rather than you have to prove it is.
could be wrong.


They came round about 9pm, insurance company isn't open. I'm sure they will check. I'll have the documents from them in 7 days time anyway.

No theres no legal restriction document, i just happen to have a cert that came with the bike. I just mentioned I had one because I was hoping it would be enough for them to assume it was restricted. It seemed to convince them anyway; handy to have even if its not official.

Only thing is the tax ran out last week and I havn't had the money to renew it yet. But it landed tax disc side down and they didn't mention it at all. I'll get it taxed ASAP and hope that'll be the end of it.
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tax might bite you in the arse but the bike looks OK.
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PostPosted: 00:59 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd be taxing it now. Pray it all comes through and don't worry about the restriction certificate as you can quite plainly see how "legal" it is. Put the restrictors back in and tell the cops to do one.

Your are looking at being one very lucky man.
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PostPosted: 01:06 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah the police can be very helpful at times. Seeing as though they dont manage to get people for anythng other than vehicular misdemenours they probably play the odds and follow these up looking to get an easy catch.

I remember last year when I came home to find the police in my living room breathalysing my dad. Turns out he had been hit by a bike from behind at a junction (who had then got up and legged it). Should maybe have been investing their time looking for the criminal and not persecuting the victim. No wonder noone has faith in them.

Anyway, that aside, Im glad to hear your ok mate. Hope everything works out ok for you Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:49 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personal injury accidents have to be reported to police within 24 hrs thats why police would have attended to take details and its pretty common to be breathalysed after being involved in an accident..

Villers do you really think that those officers were the only ones working, no chance any others were out looking hey??
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PostPosted: 03:06 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, glad your ok bud, a bit of a shock that I think will be with you couple of days trying to work out how it happened, good your still posting Smile
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PostPosted: 03:34 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Why cant i be that lucky!?
Police tried to pin theft on me untill insurance came up then they tried to pin drunk driving on me... yea thanks guys...
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bad news mate, but glad you're alright.

The producer is an inconvenience though and when you do get your insurance certificate, get your tax from the post office. They'll give you the March disc now anyway, so if your tax expired end of Feb, it's the disc you'd have been riding with when you crashed.

They might ask a few questions (not that they have any enforcement authority), but just tell them you were waiting for the ins cert and are happy to pay for the last week or so that you had no tax.

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PostPosted: 10:18 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I binned a cbr250rr about a week ago going down a road where there was a strip of gravel. lost the front end and slid into a kerb at about 25mph...

I came out perfectly fine but again paramedics were called, the bike was/is a state.

Police then turned up, 2 guys in a car who seemed to find amusement in my accident.
I dont know why but then a copper on an yammy fj pulled up and quite literally told them to fuck off.

I was well chuffed with him Smile No documents asked for or anything just wanted to ensure another motorcyclist was ok.
He even offered to come collect the bike for me when he was off duty.

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PostPosted: 11:38 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gutted mate, is this the 1st or 2nd time you've come off?

Something about those ZXR 400s they don't half like the hedges Smile
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least you had a fairly soft landing and the bike looks pretty much unscathed. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

R6jonny wrote:
Personal injury accidents have to be reported to police within 24 hrs thats why police would have attended to take details and its pretty common to be breathalysed after being involved in an accident..

Villers do you really think that those officers were the only ones working, no chance any others were out looking hey??


No your right there were some others, but when they found the blokes address they simply accepted it when some old lady told them he had moved away. After he gave them the run around for 4 months and they caught him he got some points and a £300 fine. Very nice. The breathalyser thing winds me up, I know its not down to the offiers who turn up though. It still stinks of a policy angled towards people having to incriminate themselves rather than actual police work. Confused
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:
R6jonny wrote:
Personal injury accidents have to be reported to police within 24 hrs thats why police would have attended to take details and its pretty common to be breathalysed after being involved in an accident..

Villers do you really think that those officers were the only ones working, no chance any others were out looking hey??


No your right there were some others, but when they found the blokes address they simply accepted it when some old lady told them he had moved away. After he gave them the run around for 4 months and they caught him he got some points and a £300 fine. Very nice. The breathalyser thing winds me up, I know its not down to the offiers who turn up though. It still stinks of a policy angled towards people having to incriminate themselves rather than actual police work. Confused


So you're pissed at the police that when they caught him, the COURT only gave him points and a fine???

Police and court are not the same entity you know
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

unlucky mate, don't let the tax bit you in the ass.

Also good to see the bike is ok, not like all the other kawasakis seen crashed on here, where the nose cone just explodes.
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ghost wrote:
Gutted mate, is this the 1st or 2nd time you've come off?

Something about those ZXR 400s they don't half like the hedges Smile


2nd, but the first time was a low speed slide a year ago and doesn't really count Laughing I always crash in March Sad
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

R6jonny wrote:

So you're pissed at the police that when they caught him, the COURT only gave him points and a fine???
Police and court are not the same entity you know


Really? No shit!! Laughing

No Im pissed because they took 4 months to catch up with him despite having his name, address, insurance details, reg number and where he worked. My dad was in his car and was fully comp so it was sorted, but he still had the worry of not knowing if his no claims had gone etc. Imagine being knocked off your bike whilst 3rd party and being sat with a smashed bike for 4 months when you know the police have all the details of the other driver. You might say that they have 'other things to do' in that time, or 'bigger fish to fry' but they had plenty of time to knock on the door of the victim and criminalise them in their own living room.

I dont believe they do a completely bad service, I do howvere believe that the priorities are messed up and that they are becoming more toothless by the day due to the people behind them. The courts appear to be a joke, hence being a proper scumbag has very little consequence. Being a law abiding hard worker means they are able to give you a decent fine knowing you can pay it.

It just winds me up thats all Confused
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Do you think if it was restricted, you would still have crashed?

I'm not having a go (I don't even know how a restriction works with regards reducing power) but you reckon you crashed being a bit eager on the power, and It would be particularly unfortunate if you de-restricted a bike then it ended up making you crash Confused
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 08 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

skluff wrote:
Do you think if it was restricted, you would still have crashed?

I'm not having a go (I don't even know how a restriction works with regards reducing power) but you reckon you crashed being a bit eager on the power, and It would be particularly unfortunate if you de-restricted a bike then it ended up making you crash Confused


I'm not sure, maybe, maybe not. I wasn't exactly thrashing it around the corner, but then again slightly less power and i might not have lost grip. But it's a bit like asking if I'd have crashed if I'd have bought a smaller bike.

I've never had it restricted so I'm not sure on the difference to be honest. I've had the bike over a year now.
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