Suzuki Bandit brake upgrade?

[mrsteko]

I own a 98 bandit and have has constant trouble with "stiff" brakes since I bought it. I have added braided hoses and changed the piston and dust seals, but still the calipers seem to stick and make it very difficult to move around. There is nothing else I can do, did suzuki just put shit calipers on this model?

If anyone has any ideas on an upgrade, perhaps a compatible caliper, I'd be very interested in hearing about it.

Cheers,

Stephen.
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Theory passed Dec 05 : Practical passed 28th April '06
Bikes : 1999 NSR 125 R (sold)
: 1998 bandit 600

[Bezzer]

600 Bandits have calipers with a fixing hole spacing of 63-63mm (can't remember which) only the 600 Teapot and SV650 have the same size spacing and that's because it's the same caliper so you can't really do a straight swop/upgrade other than perhaps getting newer better condition ones.
The bigger bikes with the 4 pot and 6 pot calipers are 90mm fixing, you need adaptor brackets to fit them to the 600, you see them now and again on fleabay or you could get some made if you want to go that route.
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I used to be indecisive but now I'm not quite so sure.

[mrsteko]

when i measured between the points where the caliper makes contact with the bracket, the measurement was 90mm, and about 10mm less than this on a 2005 bandit.

I don't know where your measurement of 63 comes from but perhaps you may be onto something with the switch over between a different bike's calipers.

Stephen
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Theory passed Dec 05 : Practical passed 28th April '06
Bikes : 1999 NSR 125 R (sold)
: 1998 bandit 600

[sickpup]

[sickpup]

[mrsteko]

Um, no thanks,

Didn't want to say anything but I've bought stuff from you before. All I did was to warn that chap in the most subtle way possible. But thank you for your contribution.

Stephen.
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Theory passed Dec 05 : Practical passed 28th April '06
Bikes : 1999 NSR 125 R (sold)
: 1998 bandit 600

[sickpup]

[mrsteko]

Well whatever he decides to do I would always advise anyone to spend a bit more and go for manufacturers standard parts. Will save you money in the long run and there is a huge difference in the quality.

My problem existed before i had the braided lines fitted but I don't dispute that they may contribute to the problem.

Stephen.
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Theory passed Dec 05 : Practical passed 28th April '06
Bikes : 1999 NSR 125 R (sold)
: 1998 bandit 600

[chris-red]

Put a GSXR/TL front end on it, buy a better bike or put up with it.
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[sickpup]

[mrsteko]

No problem at all, I wrote that purchase off a long time ago,

You came to my thread looking for me remember. I only advised someone else not to buy pattern parts as I have in the past and they are largely a waste of money.

I'm believe that is allowed, I would actually consider it a favour, I never mentioned names and I certainly didn't make any attempt to assassinate anyone's character, lol

Good luck,

Stephen
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Theory passed Dec 05 : Practical passed 28th April '06
Bikes : 1999 NSR 125 R (sold)
: 1998 bandit 600

[Bikeless]

I disagree to a point with the OEM parts thing as i used to buy bearings and stuff,genuine Honda but came in a Koyo box with a Honda motif on also,dealer advised me that the patterns were Koyo too,exactly the same as OEM,different box,just an example.

[mrsteko]

Hmm, I see. But as another example I bought piston rings once and I didn't like the look of them, so I bought genuine honda parts and the difference was unreal. The thickness and the build quality of the honda rings were a world apart from the pattern part rings, which looked paper thin in comparison. Would have blown in a second.

I think for important parts like this, it's always a good idea to buy genuine.
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Theory passed Dec 05 : Practical passed 28th April '06
Bikes : 1999 NSR 125 R (sold)
: 1998 bandit 600

[sickpup]

[mrsteko]

Firstly, stop quoting me.

Secondly, if you do want to quote something, quote the bit at the top which mentions I have already replaced the seals, I am not looking for a supplier for these.

Thirdly I told you exactly what was wrong with your product at the time and you did indeed suggest i may have put them in "cack handedly". However the standard suzuki parts I bought right afterwards went straight in no problem, strange. You were given more than enough info about the part i needed in the beginning and I don't take kindly to the "try it and see" ethos with a view to refunding and posting back later should it not work- its a waste of my time and I have no interest in it.
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Theory passed Dec 05 : Practical passed 28th April '06
Bikes : 1999 NSR 125 R (sold)
: 1998 bandit 600

[Bezzer]

[mrsteko]

Its where the caliper joins the bracket. Not where the bracket joins the stanchion. I figured this would be better as a replacement caliper would still need to use this bracket if it were intended to be attached to the bike.
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Theory passed Dec 05 : Practical passed 28th April '06
Bikes : 1999 NSR 125 R (sold)
: 1998 bandit 600

[mrsteko]

[mrsteko]

Think I'll change the pots and maybe consider a rebuild of the master cylinder, if I can manage it being such a stranger to a spanner and all, lol. Thanks to all who provided a constructive comment.

stephen.
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Theory passed Dec 05 : Practical passed 28th April '06
Bikes : 1999 NSR 125 R (sold)
: 1998 bandit 600

[sickpup]

[Bezzer]

[sickpup]

600 Bandit up to 1999 uses a 2x25mm piston sliding caliper that fits to a separate bracket and then the fork leg.

[Bezzer]

[sickpup]

I agree, I was just clearing up the confusion.