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PostPosted: 12:01 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: That bloke who did 122mph with his son as pillion... Reply with quote

has been jailed for 6 months :-O

can't find the original post to update, sorry
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Re: That bloke who did 122mph with his son as pillion... Reply with quote

t121anf wrote:
has been jailed for 6 months :-O

can't find the original post to update, sorry


He should have killed someone while texting on his mobile, he would have only got 6 weeks...
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gonna be a whinge-a-thon with Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 today on this story Rolling Eyes

Some of us should ring in a go "that's nothing, I did 178 (indicated) with my pregnant missus on the back".
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see what the big deal is about, no need for a jail sentence in my eyes.

You can mug someone in the street with a knife, rob someones house, steal a car and probally still only get a few hours of community service. Yet someone who was speeding with his son on the back gets put in jail and taken away from his family?

This country is messed up.
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know the original story? Did he crash or something? Or was he just clocked? If its just a speeding case then thats utterly ridiculous, when, as mentioned, the dozy bint who actually killed a biker whilst texting got far less.
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article5831366.ece

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/7918212.stm

Just speeding Neutral How utterly ridiculous to get 6 months for that. Especially seeing as it's all centered around the son being on the back, who now won't have a father for 6 months!
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It takes the piss local paper said a 18yr old who stole a beamer and was chased with speeds exeding 100mph without a licence crashed the car and tryed to leg it got a 3 year driving ban (whats the point) big fine and some comunity service ??



Does make me a little worried when i remember topping the DL out at 130 playing with a mates scooby i had him till 70 Twisted Evil


Did find this a little bit stupid though

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At a previous hearing, a judge heard Bennett had opened the throttle near South Molton because it started to rain.


what was he thinking.... ah shit its starting to rain i better go faster Shocked
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being a dad and regularly take my 14 year old on the back albeit with full leathers and gloves etc doing that in the wet was a bit twattish !

However getting 6 months is b0llocks.

Look at the scum who nicked my bike and then rode it p1ssed and crashed it 1/2 mile later. He's got away with it scott free and he was on probation.

He was far more dangerous than this.
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberglass wrote:
It takes the piss local paper said a 18yr old who stole a beamer and was chased with speeds exeding 100mph without a licence crashed the car and tryed to leg it got a 3 year driving ban (whats the point) big fine and some comunity service ??


They get the ban applied when they apply for their licence, so when they hit 17 they can't actually drive legally till they are 20.
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

and what are the chances he'll bother getting a license....sad but true in these cases.
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
cyberglass wrote:
It takes the piss local paper said a 18yr old who stole a beamer and was chased with speeds exeding 100mph without a licence crashed the car and tryed to leg it got a 3 year driving ban (whats the point) big fine and some comunity service ??


They get the ban applied when they apply for their licence, so when they hit 17 they can't actually drive legally till they are 20.


And that makes it any better because of what? If they are nicking cars/bikes before they are 17, what makes you think they'll bother with the licence at 17 Confused
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

AppleJoe wrote:
And that makes it any better because of what? If they are nicking cars/bikes before they are 17, what makes you think they'll bother with the licence at 17 Confused


Dunno but its something I suppose, much as I would prefer sending round a bunch of heavies and knee capping them , its not going to happen is it?.
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been on the back of my dads R1 doing 167(GPS) when i was 13, at the same time was a bloke called Hippy(kinda fits) with his 11 year old son on the back doing 120 on one wheel.

i could understand a fine and some points but 6 months is silly.
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

He is being made an example of and with a kid on board they will not treat it lightly putting a minor in danger. If he was alone then it would just be fine/ban/points but as he wasn't a custodial sentence was given. Common thing when endangering a child.
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Load of steaming bullshit Tut Tut

how is it that some chap being naughty on his bike with his son gets sent to jail, yet some chav scroat gets off (again & again) for some other offence like smacking a pensioner or robbing someone..

to me robbing some poor bastard is far wrose than breaking the limit on a machine (son excluded)

i just love good old british justice Police Clapping

did anyone see the camera video?? did the copper running it actually get an accurate lock on? the cross hairs were all over the place rarely hitting anything resembling a flat surface Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

find it hard to believe he only had to lean the bike that little doing 122mph round that bend, personally i can't see it being that fast.
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a bit irresponsible to allow your kid pillion with no body protection and then go speeding.

Someone said about the kid being without a father for 6 months (he will be let out sooner than that anyway) but if the father does that sort of thing perhaps the kid would be better off without him! IF they had had an accident and the kid was badly injured or killed then the bloke would have been gutted. I know we all take risks, but they have to be calculated risks. I never ride without protection and I wouldn't expect my pillion to have any less protection than me.

How would everyone feel if they were in a plane crash and the pilot had a parachute and jumped. I'm sure you would be all pissed off that there weren't parachutes supplied by the airline! Silly analogy I know but the same idea really.

A custodial sentence does seem extreme when compared to other crimes but I think we should concentrate more on higher penalties for those crimes rather than trying to trivialise this one.

JUst my 2p worth.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a good idea with your kid on the back but definatly not worthy of jail. I was going faster today with a friend on the back and I'd hate to think I could have been jailed for it.
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob wrote:
It is a bit irresponsible to allow your kid pillion with no body protection and then go speeding.
but not illegal other than the speeding bit.
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaveHogg wrote:
Rob wrote:
It is a bit irresponsible to allow your kid pillion with no body protection and then go speeding.
but not illegal other than the speeding bit.


Will probably be regarded as case law now though, so that anyone speeding with a kid on the back, will now be referred to this case and thrown in jail. Soon enough the cases will be anything over the speed limit, even if the kid wears leathers. Fusking courts and CPS can't prioritise their judgments.
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muzza wrote:
Fusking courts and CPS can't prioritise their judgments.


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PostPosted: 16:07 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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His son was filmed holding on to the seat of the motorbike with his bare hands


Laughing I love the way they try to make it sound so serious
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Write to your MP asking that the law be changed.

The 'government' might not care what you think, but local MP's certainly do Wink
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest and I shouldnt admit to this cause I'll only get flack but a few years ago I had my son on the back going round a r-bout we were both high sided, slow fortunately and we werent hurt bad couple of scrapes but I now believe there should be a law preventing carrying kids, shit happens when you least expect it and if youve been riding long enough you will have hit an unexpected greasy spot cause its just a matter of time, good luck
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 02 Mar 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bikedemon99 wrote:
To be honest and I shouldnt admit to this cause I'll only get flack but a few years ago I had my son on the back going round a r-bout we were both high sided, slow fortunately and we werent hurt bad couple of scrapes but I now believe there should be a law preventing carrying kids, shit happens when you least expect it and if youve been riding long enough you will have hit an unexpected greasy spot cause its just a matter of time, good luck


I wouldn't want to carry any child of mine on the back of the bike (I don't like carrying pillions at all actually - I'd rather be responsible for me and me only), but I'd still have to disagree with you there.

After all, you're just as likely to have an accident in a car, or while walking along the street. If you ride safely and defensively I wouldn't say there was a problem with it.
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