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Definitely check the tyres for squaring  |
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| KevTM |
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squared tyres was the first thing i thought of..
if it feels like sh*t though it could be anything, low fork oil, wrong fork oil, buggered rear shock, wrong shock settings, dodgy bushes in the linkages, wrong tyre pressures even, misaligned rear tyre adjustment, front/rear height set up wrong.
Worth giving the whole thing a once over as it could be a combination of some/all of above.
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I have a G1 and I can tell you that the tyres dont have to be too squared off to get that effect.
I have just changed the tyres on mine and I was amazed at the amount of handling that had been lost.
IMO If the head bearings are OK, and that is like a 2 minute check, go get new tyres. ____________________ Eagles may soar.............but rats don't get sucked through jet engines!!
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What mileage is the bike? If its anywhere between 20-35k, and there's no history or receipts to check that it's done, then it'll probably be wise to change or do the following:
Grease rear shock joints and linkages
Change tyres
change head bearings
Re-gas and service rear shock
Change front fork oil
Once that's all done, it'll be as sweet as a nut. I noticed my bike go through the transition of being a stable, compliant turner to what you've just described there and the steps . The mitigating steps were taken in that order as the problem progressively got worse. ____________________ The Tot 2019 Z1000SX - 2007 R1
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Also check the front wheel bearings, worn ones can cause similar handling as to that which you describe...
Low tyre pressures will make it sloppy, but that double tip into corners is often bearings i have found.
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| Titz wrote: | What mileage is the bike? If its anywhere between 20-35k, and there's no history or receipts to check that it's done, then it'll probably be wise to change or do the following:
 Grease rear shock joints and linkages
 Change tyres
 change head bearings
Re-gas and service rear shock Change front fork oil
Once that's all done, it'll be as sweet as a nut. I noticed my bike go through the transition of being a stable, compliant turner to what you've just described there and the steps . The mitigating steps were taken in that order as the problem progressively got worse. |
Obvs still advised, but not essential I'd say. Unless theres genuinely a problem with it, mine has never been serviced, seen some harsh track use, and is still going strong at 27K.
Obvs, something that will need doing as time goes on like.
Same with the forkoil, as far as I know, never been changed Though will be doing it soon, as I have a weeping forkseal so will do the lot.
Oh, and I totally agree with rear linkages. Upto 22/23K, my bike hadnt really seen any "abuse" and there was a lot of play in the linkages. So much so that it failed an MOT. Def worth doing, got my full set of bearings for about 80 quid I think, a fair amount of hassle if doing it on the deck, what with full exhaust off etc  ____________________ "Oh....it looks like Average Joe's is forfeiting the match!" - "Yeah, its a risky strategy but lets see if it pays off for 'em Cotton." |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 16 years, 243 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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