Restrictor Certificate producer note 'Update'

[Yarri]

Basically ill cut long story short, i got pulled today by copper because of my back tyre, it was a bit bold...

I was gonna change it this week anyway so been given a producer note of documentation and other paper to prove that my tyre been changed to be signed by garadge.

On other hand when i been asked about restriction i said i had it...

So copper ticked 4 boxes on producer note, license, insurance certificate, mot certificate and 'other documentation' which suppose to be restriction certificate.

Thing is there is no such law that requires me to have the certification...

In any case i got 7days to produce the documents, i have a fake FY certificate but i have a feeling that they might ring up FY to check... I could say that i lost the certificate but then i dunno what would happen next...

Any thoughts?
Thxanks
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[K0rnIsAFAGGOT]

From what i've read on here before they don't, they just make sure you have it.

Did you get the certificate from this forum?

[Kwaks]

Might explain why your back wheel was sliding

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=2179093#2179093

Anyway, to be blunt this is BS, if the tyre was illegal you would have got 3 points, not just a HORTI.

No way you would have got told to change the tyre and prove it at the station, because that is the copper confirming he let you ride away on an illegal tyre with no consequences.
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[stinkwheel]

As far as I know, there is no such offence as "Failure to produce a restriction certificate."

The burden of proof (again as my understanding goes) lies with the police to prove you are not restricted, not with you to prove you are.

Failure to produce the other documents you listed is an offence.

Did he actually check the tread depth of the tyre with any form of measuring device or was he just going by the wear bars?
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[m0l0t0v]

Judging by the "bold" there's probably no wear marks!

And for the FI certificate. Don't bother. The number they can chase up and the number to the bike with the VIN and reg number. So since it's fake you're just putting yourself at risk. I know because when I had my accident they checked with FI to see if it was restricted and they had the certificate number and everything. BUT doesn't have to go that way, I asked the officer who came to meet me.

Is it restricted? IF so, go to a dyno and get a printout showing under 33bhp.

If not... then find something quick. Take a couple of HT leads off or something then get a dyno
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[Kwaks]

Do you not think the "other" documentation may be the bit of paper he gave you to prove the tyre had been changed?

Still begs the question, if it needed changed because it was illegal, why no points?
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[Kwaks]

He hasn't been asked for a certificate of restriction. He is assuming that, he has been asked to supply insurance, DL, MOT & a completed form he was given by the officer to show the tyre has been changed.
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[Yarri]

I have to admit that i was very lucky at that point, he was gonna give me the ticket but after some chat he gave me a note that i need to produce in 14 days with tyre changed which i will do. Other paper he gave me is a producer of documets and he ticked 4 things: 1. license, 2. insurance, 4.mot and number 10. Other documentation which he said is the certificate of restriction...

He didn't go much in details about restriction, neither did i as i could have said there is no law about certificate blablabla but i was lucky enough at that point. He also said my numberplate is too small when its standard size
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[TheDonUK]

As has been said there is no defined proof,

I once got the same producer with all the ticked boxes but in the "other" field he actually wrote "33bhp certificate",

i asked my local mechanic (dont ask a jobsworth type) to find the part number of the restrictors for my bike and write a letter stating that such and such part number had been fitted on x date, it was on headed paper from the small independent garage and the police officer at the desk dident bat an eyelid...

Not worth faking a certificate from FI, and remember the person you are producing too likely has little to no knowledge about bike law.
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[Welshd1k]

when i got asked to produce on my 125. i didnt even have a valid cbt certificate ( had expired 5 months before)

just took log book, mot liscence and inshurance and the nice bit of stuff behind the counter just filled ins oem form and i was on my way
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[The Original Muzza]

If your fake FI certificate says "FY" on it, I'd probably give it a miss.
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[pa_broon74]

Usually if they've ticked the 'other documentation' box they need to stipulate on the ticket what other documentation is required. The officer just saying to you by the road side won't work as there'd be no reasonable way for the counter staff to check.

I wouldn't worry, I've not met a police officer who's known the ins and outs of restriction, civilian desk staff know even less. (Now that I've said that, the one that deals with you will be the worst jobsworth who also happens to be an avid motorcyclist... Probably rides a flourescent pan european because... Well, just because... )


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[chris-red]

I had this, I was pulled because I sped past a marked police bike at some lights. I did 80 in a 40 and had the front lift abit over a flyover

Anyway he gave me 3 points for the speed and asked if it was restricted and if I had a cert for it. I said yes, obviously he knew it wasn't and on the speeding ticket he noted that I had to give in all my docs Tax, Insurance, MoT etc. He also ticked that other other documents part and wrote in big letters with stars at either end **Restriction Certificate Reuired**. I got a copy of one and had my gifted photoshop mate edit it for me. Went to the police station to do all the papaerwork and they didn't even ask for it.
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[5v3d3b0]

Here in Spain you need to have your MOT card with you at all times on the bike, and there it states the kW. I don't dare to think what the coppers would do if you are unrestricted when you shouldn't be. I think you can go to prison cause it counts as driving without a license...
I need to restrict the zxr the second I get it, get an MOT and then unrestrict again. Buuuuuut I know someone who knows someone who changes the paperwork for 30 quid

[Im-a-Ridah]

[5v3d3b0]

I just looked that up and you won't go to jail but it's a VERY big fine. And here you go to jail if you double the speed limit. (in theory)
So 240 in a 120 will get you jailed, but I doubt 100 in a 50 will. They are very lenient on speed here as long as a camera doesn't get you. Machines don't forgive you

[kawakid]

Photoshop one.
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[Fawbish]

Not so bored of the 600 now?


Learn to ride it faster and they might not have caught you
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[Kwaks]

Love how someone on a restricted licence is bored of their 600 after 5 months and wants a thou, then craps it when Police ask if his bike is restricted
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[Yarri]

Went to police station to produce documents, because section 10 wasn't specified they didn't ask for anything, also got new tyre so happy days
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[Kwaks]

So worth the worry or do you not think you might as well restrict it before its too late?
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[Yarri]