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skyjet09
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 20 Jun 2009    Post subject: revs die when i pull the throttle back to quick??? Reply with quote

hi there

i have a skyjet 125gy, and befor you start yes it its a chinees bike and its not well liked so i dont need all this get a jap make lol

the bike runs gr8 its just when i pull the throttle back to quick the revs die and goes to cut out so i have to let go of the throttle, and when im going through the gears it will just loose revs when i try to pull the throttle back to go faster, i have to very gently mm by mm pull back the throttle but even then when i get to a certain point the revs will die and it will slow down and then i have to let go of the throttle and start again. when i have it on the stand and full rev it, it goes all groggy and goes to cut out untill i put the throttle back and its ok. i thought i was getting to much petrol but there is only 1 screw on my carb and when i turn it the revs go up and down.

i have tried it with the revs at different points and it still does the same.

andy help will be more then appreciated.

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andrew
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 20 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

is the bike stock, or have you modified it (exhaust etc?)

Sounds like a fueling problem
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 20 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

this may sound abit weird but i have come across some bikes that are designed to do that, i had a kinroad xt50 gy (shite) and it did that too. aparently its to stop wheelies and accidents??? haha
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 20 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

carlperkins001 wrote:
this may sound abit weird but i have come across some bikes that are designed to do that, i had a kinroad xt50 gy (shite) and it did that too. aparently its to stop wheelies and accidents??? haha


lol, na i havent modified it at all, if its supposed to do that then it would causes an accident lol not prevent 1, it just looses power when i full rev it, its like its not geeting enough perol or its getting to much, but it still runs ok but i have to build up speed very slowly.
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 20 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

told you it would sound weird haha.

the chinese ones are deffinatley not designed to be thrashed though.
even reving too high can bugger them up. mine was very very delicate and i broke it after 2 weeks (from new) hahaha

but yeah it may be a kinked fuel line or something
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 20 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

did it always do this?

Check:

1) There isnt any blockage in the fuel system anywhere-fuel filter, fuel lines, fuel tap, is there any crud in the carb?

2) Any holes or cracks in the intake pipes, airbox and inlet stub

3) Check there arent any leaks in the exhaust

Perhaps it may be jetted a bit lean.
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skyjet09
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 20 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Temeluchus wrote:
did it always do this?

Check:

1) There isnt any blockage in the fuel system anywhere-fuel filter, fuel lines, fuel tap, is there any crud in the carb?

2) Any holes or cracks in the intake pipes, airbox and inlet stub

3) Check there arent any leaks in the exhaust

Perhaps it may be jetted a bit lean.


i bought it about 3 months ago and have only just got in insured and taxed, do you recommend taking the card off and checking if its clean then? i checked the fuel pip and its hard to get it in a perfect place so there ins't a kink but the is a very small kink that i think wont effect anything, i checked the exhaust and thats fine,i havent checked the airbox because i didnt think that would make that kind of problem but i will check that now, also whats (it may be jetted a bit lean) mean?

thanks for all your replies
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 20 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before you take the engine to bits you should whip the spark plug out and tell us what colour it is.

My guess is it'll be black and sooty.
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 20 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Timmeh wrote:
Before you take the engine to bits you should whip the spark plug out and tell us what colour it is.

My guess is it'll be black and sooty.


will check the spark plug in a bit, the spark plug was new 3 months ago and i have only ridden my bike today so it has been in the bike for 3 months but i have started the bike a few times but not road it in that 3 months,
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 20 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regardless of the age of the plug, if you've been running the bike the colour of the plug will tells us if it's running rich or lean.
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 20 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say its jetted wrong, sounds just like its running too rich...
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PostPosted: 01:22 - 21 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

you only have the bike a few months & hardly drove it so it's not your job to look for advice on how to fix it. bring it back to where you bought it from as it should be under warranty & tell them what you've been telling us.
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PostPosted: 07:15 - 21 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi again

i just checked my spark plug and at the bottom it it very black and sooty, what does that mean???????
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 21 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

a black & sooty plug means its running too rich, i wouldn't think it's jetted wrong as it's only a new bike. the choke could be faulty & sticking, is it manual or automatic? you said you could only see one adjustment screw on the carb, the tickover screw? have a look again, there should be an air/mixture screw beside it. it doesn't stick out like the tickover screw & it's probably flush with the carb with a slot in it for a flat blade screwdriver. if your choke is not faulty then adjust the air screw, if you screw it into the carb till you feel it getting tight then unscrew it two turns. you should be pretty close to the right fuel/air mix. clean the sparkplug as it's fouled up & make sure your getting a nice spark. i still think you should bring the bike back to the shop & let them deal with it but i hope this helps.....
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 21 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

skyjet09 wrote:
hi again

i just checked my spark plug and at the bottom it it very black and sooty, what does that mean???????


As said running rich and is flooding every time you open the throttle.
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 21 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

skyjet09 wrote:
hi again

i just checked my spark plug and at the bottom it it very black and sooty, what does that mean???????


Basically there's too much fuel going into the engine which is why its bogging down when you open the throttle.

As suggested as it's under warranty take the thing back and get another one, or get them to adjust the fuelling so its works properly. If they won't do it get trading standards onto them, they'll soon back down, although hopefully this won't be a problem.

If this was an old bike I'd be telling you to get something called a colourtune which is essentially a sparkplug with a clear window, you can look right down into the combustion chamber when the engine's running, you then adjust the mixture screw on the carb until you get a nice blue glow at idle. It'll also tell you if your jets are the wrong size.

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PostPosted: 14:22 - 21 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

steo wrote:
a black & sooty plug means its running too rich, i wouldn't think it's jetted wrong as it's only a new bike. the choke could be faulty & sticking, is it manual or automatic? you said you could only see one adjustment screw on the carb, the tickover screw? have a look again, there should be an air/mixture screw beside it. it doesn't stick out like the tickover screw & it's probably flush with the carb with a slot in it for a flat blade screwdriver. if your choke is not faulty then adjust the air screw, if you screw it into the carb till you feel it getting tight then unscrew it two turns. you should be pretty close to the right fuel/air mix. clean the sparkplug as it's fouled up & make sure your getting a nice spark. i still think you should bring the bike back to the shop & let them deal with it but i hope this helps.....


hi there,

thanks for the reply, my bike is a skyjet sj125gy 2007 model, 4 stroke, 5 gears,
iv had it 3months but not from new as i bought it off ebay, it is in very good condition as its only done 1000 miles. it came without a spark plug and some electrical problems which i have fix, i took the carb off a min it ago and there is only 1 flathead screw on the side for high or low revs, the is another screw under the card and when i turn it , it pushes this small pin up into the carb, and i aint got a clue what that would even do, also my choke is fine,
here is my carb i just found it.

https://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z147/siendi/mycarb.jpg
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 21 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahh the plot thickens, seems like an odd way to buy a bike with no sparkplug & not running, especially off fleabay. i suspect the previous owner had the same grief as you & decided to get shut. anyway as you have the carb off, you may as well clean & inspect it. what size is the main jet, it should be written on it, what position is the circlip on the needle which slides down into the carb? that screw underneath the carb is your air screw. turn it all the way in & then unscrew it 2 turns.
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 21 Jun 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ALL DONE, IT WAS THE SPARK PLUG GAP BTWEEN THE CENTER ELECTRODE AND THE SIDE ELECTRODE, I HAD TO MAKE THE GAP SMALLER Laughing
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