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have a look here.
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I looked but no one seems to be not much about my kart exhaust on google hence why i asked here.  |
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2 strokes are massively dependent on the size, length and shape of the exhaust!! 2-stroke exhausts are basically specifically designed to work in harmony (that word can be taken literally in this sense) with the specific engine they were designed for.
If you have slapped a random (i.e. incorrect for that engine) exhaust on there, then at best the motor will not run right, at worst you could blow it up!!
Your problem will be exacerbated as MX motors are massively tuned with huge porting, making the exacting size and shape of exhaust even more important.
In short, NO - you didn't want to do that did you!!
Can you not weld the proper exhaust back on?
Its the 'expansion chamber' bit that is the crucial bit, the end can bit is of less importance (but still significant). ____________________ The purpose of life is to fight maturity. |
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Everytime i start to read that link you sent me someone walk in here and start s talking so, Grr!
THe pipe it is a tuned one, i got the motor from ebay and it was on a kart but it was on the other side of the chassie, and there was loads more room for it.
its the angle at the front that is the problem, its far too wide, it needs to be much tighter on my kart...
Maybe ill be well up there then with that pipe as aposed to this one now!!!
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Nope, no idea what jets to put in. But presumably what is in there now was working when it was a 'bike'?? Oh and what have you done about the airbox? That too needs to be the original for the bike and all the lengths and stuff kept as they should be.
Check the colour of the plug - that is normally the best indicator if the jetting needs to be changed. Look on the net for 2-stroke mixture plug colour guides.
Basically you can modify this sort of stuff, but unless you understand what's going on, do the calculations required for a change you want to make - all you are likely to do is actually make it slower and potentially make it go pop.  |
Well, i bought the motor from ebay, it was on a kart you see so i dont know about what it was like on a bike. I got the pipe and silencer, but i got no carb, or any pipe to link the silencer to the pipe. I bought the carb i have now from ebay, so it has no relation to this motor, other that it just fitted on and worked ok.
It had no air box either, i just have a k&n filter to go on it that he gave me.
About modifying things, i recon this is well out now, but the thing is i have no idea what to look for! Ill get the other pipe on it, and try to get it running as best as i can, then check the plug and go from there!
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Well, i bought the motor from ebay, it was on a kart you see so i dont know about what it was like on a bike. I got the pipe and silencer, but i got no carb, or any pipe to link the silencer to the pipe. I bought the carb i have now from ebay, so it has no relation to this motor, other that it just fitted on and worked ok.
It had no air box either, i just have a k&n filter to go on it that he gave me.
About modifying things, i recon this is well out now, but the thing is i have no idea what to look for! Ill get the other pipe on it, and try to get it running as best as i can, then check the plug and go from there!
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With all those differences from stock, I'd say you were well and truly fecked then!!
Get the exhaust sorted as first priority, then do some plug chops to sort the mixture ... its all you can do now (unless you start buying more CR bits).
There is no reason why the combo you have won't work, but its gonna take some fiddling/experimentation to get it running right ... MX engines are really highly strung and don't take favourably to things like incorrect jetting ... so lets just hope it doesn't pinch up on you in the meantime/experimentation phase
Once you have it running properly, the first thing you want to do is put a new piston and ring in there (at a minimum new ring/rings).
MX motors have massive porting and lots of revs, as such they eat rings, and when they go, they can do expensive damage ... so its best to chuck new ones in regularly as preventative maintenance. As I presume you have no idea how many hours the motor has done since last rebuild, you need to get a new ring in there to get a known start point (and count hours from then on). Also if the ring is worn, you will lose crispness of the motor ...
I've got a YZ125 MX bike and I can categorically state that MX motors are animals!!  ____________________ The purpose of life is to fight maturity. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 17 years, 70 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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