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Chriss
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 11 Aug 2009    Post subject: Removing Rounded Torx Bolt Reply with quote

Hi!

I'm trying to change the brake discs on my car, and typically one of the torx bolts has rounded.

This bolt is hidden by the disc, the 'wrong' side, so access is extremely limited, as in, I can't even get an impact driver to it.

Short of just blowing the fucking car up and claiming on the insurance, how can I fix it?
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 11 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats the bolt holding on?The disc?Or the caliper.
Any chance of a photo
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 11 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

cut a slot in it for a plain screwdriver bit?
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 11 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The caliper carrier. It's what's stopping the disc from coming out.

I don't think there enough room for any cutting equipment.

No photo, too bright outside, and too dark inside. You just get a load of black on white. Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 11 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got a photo.

It's the blur on the bottom.

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3499/3810590365_2732ee02a3.jpg

Hopefully it kinda shows that I'm limited for room. Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 11 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

use a dremel to cut a slot in it then use a screwdriver.
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 11 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

In addition to the advice above regarding cutting a slot, might be worth spraying some plus-gas onto the bolt in an effort to counter what caused to to seize in the first place.

A trick that can work sometimes is to tighten the bolt a fraction before unscrewing. This can help to break the bond.
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 11 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
use a dremel to cut a slot in it then use a screwdriver.


S'what I'd do, also - undo the bottom carrier bolt and wiggle the carrier up and down a bit to get the bolt freer before trying to undo
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 11 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go and get some proper bolts from your local bolt factor before you put them back on!
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 11 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll never turn that with a screwdriver. Wiggling the carrier up and down to help break the bond is a good idea though.
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 11 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always try smashing a socket over the top of it (a small one) and twisting it off.
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 11 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there was room to swing a hammer and either try to smash a socket over the top or hammer in the next size up bit.

Had something similar and we air chiseled the head of the bolt
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 11 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

that bolt will have loads of loctite on it. heat it up good and proper with a blowtoarch, (keep the caliper out the way!)
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 11 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I can see in the picture..

Cut the head off the bolt with an anglegrinder, withdeaw the disk and caliper carrier together, put what is left of bolt in vise and unscrew carrier. Get genuine replacement bolts, they are important.

Hope that this helps,
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 11 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stalk wrote:
From what I can see in the picture..

Cut the head off the bolt with an anglegrinder


I'm thinking that access to get a grinder in there isn't an option without removing the whole hub assembly, which seems very much "next step" if the all else bodger choices fail
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 11 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did my brakes on my vectra couple weeks ago. Het the bolts (top and bottom) up from the front end as much as you dare. Tap the bolts a couple times with a hammer, this will cook the loctite and make it brittle. Undo the good bolt, then do as Arry suggested, and move the carrier to unscrew the damaged bolt a little to break the seal. if you still cant undo the bolt, i suggest drilling and tapping a hole carefully in the front end of the bolt at least 15mm deep, then screw in a hex head stainless bolt and tighten. this will eventualy bite, then unscrew the main bolt!
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 11 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bolts off, Babykat from here came round and fixed it (what a hero!)

Hitting the carrier and wiggling it broke the seal, which freed it up. He then unscrewed it by hand. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 11 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xenocide wrote:
Go and get some proper bolts from your local bolt factor before you put them back on!


Calliper carrier bolts need to be high tensile, so make sure you get the correct ones.

tshort2007 wrote:
that bolt will have loads of loctite on it. heat it up good and proper with a blowtoarch, (keep the caliper out the way!)


Doubt it very much. No need to thread lock them there.
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