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Deckx
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PostPosted: 06:55 - 29 Aug 2009    Post subject: nitro x fuel commander ?? any good ? Reply with quote

came across this gadget when looking for a pc111 (which are too frikin expensive)

anyone tried them out ? just wondering, if they're so good how come i've never heard of them Confused

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NITRO-X-FUEL-COMMANDER-GET-POWER-Ninja-ZX-6R-636-600_W0QQitemZ370204834189QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item5631ed798d&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 29 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apart from quality maybe? All I can see is that it's not programmable like the PCIII is as the PCIII has thousands of maps for every bike you could imagine. Whereas that one only has 15 'generic' maps it would seem.

I however don't see how '15 sizes could fit all' so to speak. Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 29 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a deal, it's a steal, it's the con of the fuckin century!

Looks like it's just a different spin on the old resistor in a box shite. Only now they are hitting the bike market.

Is probably wired into the coolant temp sensor wire and the switches simply vary the resistance of the unit slightly.

Pointless and doesn't work though the "science" behind it is fairly convincing to people who don't understand how engine management works.
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 29 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no point getting a power commander if you're not going to set the bike up on a dyno. If you can't use one of those to set up the bike on a dyno what is the point?

As someone said earlier, it sounds like the old variable resistor gag.
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 29 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
There is no point getting a power commander if you're not going to set the bike up on a dyno. If you can't use one of those to set up the bike on a dyno what is the point?

As someone said earlier, it sounds like the old variable resistor gag.


You could actually get better results by tuning on the road using a wideband datalogger, then on a dyno. It's been reported many times. What you're saying is correct though, the tool is not a lot of use without data feedback.

Spannermonkey has hit the nail on the head regarding the Nitro thing, it's a load of shite.
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Deckx
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 29 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, waste of money, which I thought Neutral although i was hoping that some bike mag would have some rave reviews .Laughing

on another note, i thought you could download maps with a PC III according to your bike & can ?

getting it dynoed where i live is a pain as I gotta transport the bike a couple hours away...
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 29 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can download maps but they won't suit your bike perfectly. You don't need to transport your bike to the dyno - you could ride it!
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 29 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

its a track bike plus its got no green book ( ie came to Thailand in parts and not been registered)

also the place is the first shop in thailand to get a bike dyno and apparantly they are still trying to figure out how to use it Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 29 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deckx wrote:
its a track bike plus its got no green book ( ie came to Thailand in parts and not been registered)

also the place is the first shop in thailand to get a bike dyno and apparantly they are still trying to figure out how to use it Laughing


There's no point without a skilled operator, and there will never be a skilled operator without someone to train them.

Just live with the bike as it is. You can download maps for the PCIII but they wouldn't match your bike. The point about dynoing (or datalogging and then mapping) is that the data from your bike is used to create the perfect map. Even the same model with the same exhaust and same air filter will have subtle differences which are picked up by measurement.

Tuning is nearly pointless without measurement.
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