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I think it would just be driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence which is 3-6 points. Not sure if it invalidates the insurance though as in an accident the insurance company would pay out and then screw you for it ( it has been covered a few times by people more knowledgable than I )
If I remember correctly they tend to prosecute for one offence and issue no further action on the second anyway.
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They could take you to court and it could be custodial
You would need to be a Grade A cock or have previous record with the police for similar crimes / motor crimes
Most likely 6 points and a fine for no insurance or no licence (riding outside of license invalidates insurance)
Could be a ban.
Not sure if the court process would effect current / future job prospects, depends on your current / future career choices.
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https://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/EndorsementsAndDisqualifications/DG_10022425
At a guess, the two offences that would affect you would be:
code:LC20
offence:Driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence
points:3-6
and possibly (since your not driving in accordance with your license, your insurance becomes invalid):
code:IN10
offence:Using a vehicle uninsured against third party risks.
points:6-8
as you can see, (if these are indeed the two that affect you) you could lose your license on just one of those offences, with a chance of a fine and a ban.
ofcourse they are quite unlikely to find out. but this is probably the worst case scenario ____________________ Faldo: "Classic BCF. A thread about sky diving is NSFW on post #2." |
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Tommie hit the nail head on.
Don't be a mug and risk it all.  ____________________ C.B.T - Expired
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Not worth the risk mate, i mean its only 2 years right?  ____________________ Vlogging - www.youtube.com/caprio85
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Not worth the risk mate, i mean its only 2 years right?  ____________________ Vlogging - www.youtube.com/caprio85
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Of course there is also the fact your bike will be impounded, and incure all the lovely charges that they impose for storing your bike...
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The only real way you 'might' get caught is if your nailed for speeding doing over 110ish . .
i've got a year to go on my restriction, been pulled 3 times, twice they did a license check and not once did the copper over the radio mention any restricton.
i also did a trackday at cadwell park a few weeks ago, i had previously done one at Donington where you can sign on the form 'you forgot your license' but here they were checking them, so i told them i forgot my license, they phoned the dvla up and checked, and it came back i had a full license and i was on my way
even if a copper did ask me, they probably wouldn't know where to look or anything anyway. fuckit, enjoy your bike, properly
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| ThatHornet wrote: | | tommie boy wrote: |
code:IN10
offence:Using a vehicle uninsured against third party risks.
points:6-8 |
Im of the understanding that if you are insured fully comp, they are obliged to cover you upto 3rd party.  |
i was also under the impression that, if your on an a2 license, its only valid if your on a bike less than 33bhp for 2 years, then anything.
if you go about cruising on something over 33bhp within those 2 years, your license is invalid, and thus, so is your insurance (since you technically have no license to drive what you would be driving).
edit: i think i just twigged on with what you was trying to say. while they are obliged to cover 3rd party, i believe (im not 100%) they can refuse to pay out, and leave it all on you, if they find you was riding without a restrictor kit.
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Driving and or riding something which doesn't have an entitlement on your licence (greater than 33bhp on a restricted licence for example) will invalidate your insurance.
As somone as said, I prefer to think about the 'best case scenario'. . ____________________ "Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul."
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 17 years, 2 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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