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 kawashima World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 14:44 - 23 Sep 2009 Post subject: Unavoidable crash? How do you react? |
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This is a car video who was recording with his drive recorder. You can see a black car jump in front of his white wagon. What this video made me scary is "If this was me on my bike, how should I react?".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIlpUm7BUHk#t=1m53s
(Please skip to 1:50) ____________________ own:2020 Serow 250
owned: 2012 YB125SP, 2008 TDM900, 2005 W650, 2002 LS125R, 2002 CB400SF, NS50F, C50 / Trip to UK(2009), Hokkaido touring(2013)
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dooorriiiiffftoooo!!!!
On a serious note, not much can realistically be done to avoid that. He did have a good 3 seconds reaction time (maybe more as he may be able to see further than the camera) but that's provided the driver was actually doing observations rather than being on autopilot.
You will surprise yourself what you can avoid with about 1 second to react if you just commit to doing something. I feel it's easy to get into a moment of indecision and not do anything.
I guess the best thing would be to see the car sliding down the other side of the road and pull yourself as far away from it as you can or go behind it on the other side of the road. I know there's a central reservation type thing but I'd be safer than hitting the van.
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Is it just me that thinks unavoidable crashes are......er, unavoidable?  ____________________ My mum smells your fingers |
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First time i watched it, i didn't see anything till just before the car hit the cam car. I was watching it like I would ride. Looking for stuff in front of me, not flying in from the other lane
On a bike, I wouldn't have been able to do anything. I would either be dead or almost dead.
Looks like he swerves into the barrier on the other side as he was going to fast into that bend. |
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I consider myself to have fast reactions but I don't think I could have done a thing in that situation, it happened too fast. Swerving to the left would have been the best thing to do, but obviously you'd need to be paying damn good attention to the other lane (which you just don't do)... ____________________ KTM 990 SMT & Suzuki DR-Z 400 SM |
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Blooooody Hell!!
That scared the life out of me! Can't see any way anyone could have avoided that - On a bike it would have been carnage.  ____________________ In everyday life good people do good things, bad people do bad things. It takes religion to make a good person do bad things. |
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F*ck me.  |
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That central reservation is a joke - it'd be better off removed as it provides a false sense of security and a pretty handy launch ramp at the same time. ____________________ Photos and that |
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If I'd been on the ball and paying full attention, I reckon I'd have stood a chance of taking avoiding action. This would however have resulted in me hitting the armco to the left of the road then flying down what looks like quite a steep drop.
From personal experience, the whole time slowing down thing does happen during a crash.
I suspect that if a bike had been involved in that accident, the rider would have flown over the bonnet of the van. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Wow I do believe you would be fucked, too quick, no time to react, even a quick counter steer wouldnt help, lets hope it doesnt happen to any of us  ____________________ Ride safe |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 16 years, 134 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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