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flyer
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PostPosted: 04:56 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Going back to a naked!! Reply with quote

Having owned a few naked bikes including recently a 900 hornet, bandit and a fire bolt. Ive owned a 900 ninja for the last year. However, I want back on a naked asap. It just suits me more. So Im thinking Z1000. Id like a speed triple but am worried about reliability, a tuano wud also be good but again part costs worry me. Any opinions?? Oh I cant afford a cb1000r, so thats outa the question.
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Re: Going back to a naked!! Reply with quote

flyer wrote:
Having owned a few naked bikes including recently a 900 hornet, bandit and a fire bolt. Ive owned a 900 ninja for the last year. However, I want back on a naked asap. It just suits me more. So Im thinking Z1000. Id like a speed triple but am worried about reliability, a tuano wud also be good but again part costs worry me. Any opinions?? Oh I cant afford a cb1000r, so thats outa the question.


You had a firebolt and you're worried about speed triple reliability?


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Speed triple: Immensely reliable, well built and an all around good egg. Pretty heavy though.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only had the firebolt for 3 months over one summer, intentionally!! Its only good point was its looks and sounds. I just know a few locals that have had probs with triples, even brand new ones. I really would like one tho. Any more opinions much appreciated, thanks
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Owned my Speed Triple (07) for about 1 1/2 years now, had little problems.

Paintwork was shite on some parts, got clearcoat re-done.
Fan stopped working, replaced under warrenty.
Bracket munched through some wires, simple fix.

Other than those, no serious issues at all.
Just keeps going.
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reppyboyo wrote:
Paintwork was shite on some parts, got clearcoat re-done.


Wot's that then? I'm planning on buying a new Street Triple ... what can I do to stop corrosion before it starts?
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is a Firebolt?

Sorry for ignorance! Embarassed
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry about not knowing, you just must have not been sucked in by Harry Potter! A fire bolt is the coolest wizards broom available!
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool wizards broom and an even cooler buell.
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drax wrote:
What is a Firebolt?

Sorry for ignorance! Embarassed

maybe this
https://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&hs=vbp&q=buell+firebolt&btnG=Search&meta=
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 04 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doug97 wrote:
Reppyboyo wrote:
Paintwork was shite on some parts, got clearcoat re-done.


Wot's that then? I'm planning on buying a new Street Triple ... what can I do to stop corrosion before it starts?


Clear coat, lacquer whatever you wish to call it.
Just a layer of clear paint/lacquer that goes over the colour to make it glossy and also protect it.

ACF50 for corrosion.

My Speedy has seen a very salty winter and has faired quite well, not many bolts suffered from it.
Some do need replacing however.

Finally, just remembered, the laquer on my rear sets and passenger hangers is coming off.
Not big deal, plan to get them powder coated eventually anyway.
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PostPosted: 01:09 - 05 Oct 2009    Post subject: Re: Going back to a naked!! Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
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Speed triple: Immensely reliable, well built and an all around good egg. Pretty heavy though.


Heavy? Mine is light as... but then I'm used to Vmax and Hayabusa... Karma
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PostPosted: 08:36 - 05 Oct 2009    Post subject: Re: Going back to a naked!! Reply with quote

vmax.dude wrote:

Heavy? Mine is light as... but then I'm used to Vmax and Hayabusa... Karma


Whoa...Stop waving that thing about, you'll have someone's eye out.
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PostPosted: 08:56 - 05 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drax wrote:
What is a Firebolt?

Sorry for ignorance! Embarassed


Its made by the only manufacturer who rhymes with cool. Buell.

It also rhymes with 'fool'. Embarassed



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PostPosted: 08:59 - 05 Oct 2009    Post subject: Re: Going back to a naked!! Reply with quote

vmax.dude wrote:

Heavy? Mine is light as... but then I'm used to Vmax and Hayabusa... Karma


Heavy for its class. The KTM Superduke, the Buells and the Kwak Z1000 are all lighter.
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PostPosted: 09:30 - 05 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

so any Zthou owners????
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PostPosted: 10:19 - 05 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reppyboyo wrote:
Finally, just remembered, the laquer on my rear sets and passenger hangers is coming off.
Not big deal, plan to get them powder coated eventually anyway.

How much does that cost? It sounds expensive ...
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 05 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

A mate of mine has one and I rode it from Kent to Southampton for him when we picked it up. It's pretty good, although the lack of fairing annoyed me, and has a decent amount of power through the rev range. The clocks take a bot of getting used to but on the plus side you can get some pretty coloured LEDs and change the colours of the tacho and speedo at will.

He hasn't had any problems with his, although the finish is not the best and requires some work to keep it looking nice. It's pretty easy to hoist the front wheel on, although he has now fitted a Power Commander that gives smoother power, or so he says. He has aftermarket cans as well, which sound pretty nice, although I do like the 4 cans of the older models.

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PostPosted: 11:39 - 05 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyer wrote:
so any Zthou owners????


Yes, that'll be me then.

I went for the Z1000(06) because I like the way it looks. It's got about as much fairing on it as I can stomach on a bike (ok, a bellypan does look rather nice) and it's suprisingly small (I have short legs). Having practically no screen keeps you from accidentally cruising up to 100+mph, but will go on to just over 155(indicated) if you want.

Paint is coming off the engine, it eats tyres, and the suspension is somewhat agricultural on occaison (compared with a sportier bike) but I find it great for fun, commuting, and the occaisonal 3-4 day tour in any conditions. If anything, it feels more planted with luggage on the back.

Bit of a dead spot around 5k rpm (I belive it's on purpose for emissions testing) but get above 7-8k (redline is ~11k) and it leaps out your hands. The nice wide bars makes it a piece of piss around town. Be sure to change the exhaust though, had the original "tuning fork" exhausts and the sound of the bike was a real let down. Much better once I put another can on it, and although I'm getting out of my depth technically, getting rid of the catalytic converter probably helps the engine breath a little better.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 05 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redd wrote:
flyer wrote:
so any Zthou owners????


Bit of a dead spot around 5k rpm (I belive it's on purpose for emissions testing)


Why do they do this, as far as im aware, there is no MOT emissions test on bikes.
My bike has a flat spot at 7k, im sure thats over fuelling though Sad
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 05 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

When they present a new model to be type approved for road use it has to pass a battery of emissions tests. These are both pollution emission AND sound emissions. Quite often they will tune a bike to be quieter at certain speeds to pass emissions hence the flat spots.
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 05 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

padwaxk88 wrote:
Why do they do this, as far as im aware, there is no MOT emissions test on bikes.
My bike has a flat spot at 7k, im sure thats over fuelling though Sad

^^ What Temeluchus said.

It's not part of the MOT, it's what the manufacturers do. If it really bothers you, chop the cat out the exhaust, and get a power commander Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 05 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Also probably helps with noise tests. Think the noise tests are done from half peak power in a specified gear and then full throttle acceleration. If there is a big flat spot then the bike accelerates slower so is quieter.

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PostPosted: 02:16 - 06 Oct 2009    Post subject: Re: Going back to a naked!! Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
vmax.dude wrote:

Heavy? Mine is light as... but then I'm used to Vmax and Hayabusa... Karma


Heavy for its class. The KTM Superduke, the Buells and the Kwak Z1000 are all lighter.


Not really,


Speed trip 189kg dry

z1000 218kg wet

Super Duke 190 dry

Buell 179kg dry

All probably weight about the same apart from the buell which is lighter.
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PostPosted: 08:17 - 06 Oct 2009    Post subject: Re: Going back to a naked!! Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Not really,

Speed trip 189kg dry

z1000 218kg wet

Super Duke 190 dry

Buell 179kg dry

All probably weight about the same apart from the buell which is lighter.


The KTM is lightest when you're talking about measured wet weight, then the Buell, then the trip. Not sure on the Z.
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