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handling is better than most of the same age, fuelling problems are pretty well sorted now. lots of tunes available off the net.
try https://www.t595.net/ or www.daytona600.org ____________________ 1988 TZR125 : 1990 RD350YPVS/ RGV250 HYBRID : 1982 RD80LC : 1983 RD80LC : 1994 RGV250 : 1991 TZR125 / CR500R HYBRID : 1976 BENELLI 500 QUATTRO : 2006 TRIUMPH 675 |
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14, I think.
I see it as the bike that always played second fiddle to the Jap versions, especially the CBR600 which it seemed to try and want to be. Improved with the 650, if you like the looks, great handling, bit of "Britain, Britain, Little Britain" about it.
If I was in the market, I'd probably buy a Speed Four instead. Ticks more boxes.
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I got bored of a Fireblade, a quirky 400 keeps me amused.
I guess I'm a bit strange... |
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your 400 would keep anyone amused i think
what are the tt's like for holding their value?
just had a look in 'what bike 2006' and the speed 4 is group 12, surely a fairing cant put it up 2 groups? and the 955 is group 14.. |
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| palmer wrote: | your 400 would keep anyone amused i think
what are the tt's like for holding their value?
just had a look in 'what bike 2006' and the speed 4 is group 12, surely a fairing cant put it up 2 groups? and the 955 is group 14.. |
Depends on the groups. The 955i was Norwich Union grpup 16 when I bought it, but in the real world the TT600 is probably just as fast. It might be down on power compared to the 955i, but it also weighs a good forty kilos less.
The TT600 is a good bike, I personally found that it was a little bland, but then I did go from a 955i! It felt too easy to go fast everywhere, and quite often I'd look down at the speedo and be doing 110.
On the 955i, you had to work to go fast, and it told you you were going fast. I don't think that I would have felt any different on any other sports 600, I just seem to prefer bikes like the Buell, to stuff like CBR600's.
That said, the TT600 is still as fast as you could ever need, it goes round corners, and is comfy enough for a scottish tour.
I never found an issue with the fuelling on my '02 model either. Apparently it had 'fixed' cams. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F; Cheap project: CBR900RR FireBlade
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you buy a tt600 for the handling but the engine isnt quite as good as other 600 sports bikes of similar age. I tried a 2000 TT600 and two 2001 tt600s.
The 2000 is very peaky no mid range. its not just a fuel map thing, its due to the cams. Fine for the track not so good on the road.
The engine really benefits from being warmed up before riding off, throttle response is a bit jerky at low revs when cold.
I think they are great value for the money particularly on ebay.
I particularly like the twitchy handling which gives the feel of a smaller bike. A lot of 600s are very stable, which is fine for high speed stuff (100mph+) but not so good creating a thrill at lower speeds (60-80).
To get the same thrill from a more stable bike i had to ride a bit faster.
If you are determined to ride exceedingly fast a lot, you might prefer something less twitchy.
I have a tt600 2001, that has been set up on a dyno with a tuneboy (like using a powercommander but better). This smooths out the power delivery but its still not perfect.
I never tried a 2002 or later model so dont know if they are much smoother or not
If you get a 400 for the same money, you will get something with higher mileage which is older, which is an older design, which has been owned by a young lad who may or may not know about maintenance.
In particular honda sports 400s suffer from electrical problems which arent a worry if you know how to fix them, but if you dont, its money to the garage.
TT600s seem to be owned by more careful owners in my opinion (although not me).
Id prefer a speed four, as the detuned engine would suit my riding style better as it would give me more torque at low revs, but when i was buying there werent any speed fours on ebay in my price range.
I may grow into the high rev riding style if i become more confidant and reckless.
also tt600 is lower insurance than other sports 600s, 13 rather than 14 ____________________ colin1 is officially faster than god |
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Thanks for all the replies.
I'm torn between 3 bikes now realy, the tt being one of them.
Can't realy make my mind up realy until im in the position to buy, and thats not going to happen yet.
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| Bendy wrote: | I rode an '02 TT once and I absolutely hated the power delivery, it wasn't a throttle, it was a switch, so on-offy that it drove me mad.
Made me instantly hate the bike, whatever else it might have had going for it. Not that I could find anything else actually, apart from them usually being cheaper than the equivalent CBR. Probably cos it looks like one that's melted a bit. |
There's a good article in BiKE mag this month about why that is.
Apparently its to do with the emissions regs, and that the engineers seem tho think that if you shut the throttle, the injectors can completely shut off the fuel. Carburettors don't do this, so neither should injectors.
The Buell injection is set up so it keeps fuelling the engine when the throttle is closed. If this were not the case, then the bike would cut in with 1203ccs of high comp V twin engine braking.
The level of revs where this cuts in can be arbitrarily set, as in the example of the new Yammy FZ1 which cuts the fuelling on a closed throttle anywhere above 4500rpm. That is why the bike feels crap in corners when you are thrashing it, because it takes time for the fuel to go from the injectors to the engine.
The injectors are off, cos you closed the throttle a bit, but now you're opening up to exit the corner. Nothing happens so you open up a bit more. The fuel finally reaches the engine and boom, you go caning forward, or highside!
Blame the emissions people I say. And it can be fixed by fooling the injectors into thinking that you never shut the throttle... on the FZ1 this is done with a black box made by some bloke in the states.
I guess that an injection remap which isn't an official Triumph one would probably cure this...
To be fair though, I never noticed it when I had the bike (the bike Bendy rode was mine!) It is just noticed by some people and not by others. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F; Cheap project: CBR900RR FireBlade
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they do have a fueling problem but this can be sorted out using fuel maps. I have the speed four which is the naked version, I love the power and the way it runs I think it's like a 2-stroke very high reving all the power is in the top of the revs, I don't think I spend much time 11k rpm on a sunday  ____________________ Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
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Old Thread Alert!
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