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 Hetzer Super Spammer

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 Posted: 11:20 - 25 Nov 2009 Post subject: I believe the time has come. |
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For a group of good men to form an alliance, with the following purpose:
To assassinate politicians, establishment kapos and heads of big business at every possible opportunity and in all possible ways. Shoot them, bomb them, kidnap and execute them on-camera.
The establishment would call this terrorism; people of moral integrity and sound humane values would call it a fight against evil, corruption and totalitarianism, a struggle to regain our rightful freedoms and liberties.
The scum, filth and vermin currently in control need to be exterminated, like the degenerate sub-human sewage they are. This would not be a crime, in any sense of the word, it would be a righteous service to our fellow man.
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"a similar axiom" to Godwin's Law, "applied to Hollywood, would stipulate that every movie star must eventually dress up in a German war uniform."  ____________________ We all choose what to think about ... |
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 Posted: 12:09 - 25 Nov 2009 Post subject: Re: I believe the time has come. |
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| Hetzer wrote: | For a group of good men to form an alliance, with the following purpose:
To assassinate politicians, establishment kapos and heads of big business at every possible opportunity and in all possible ways. Shoot them, bomb them, kidnap and execute them on-camera.
The establishment would call this terrorism; people of moral integrity and sound humane values would call it a fight against evil, corruption and totalitarianism, a struggle to regain our rightful freedoms and liberties.
The scum, filth and vermin currently in control need to be exterminated, like the degenerate sub-human sewage they are. This would not be a crime, in any sense of the word, it would be a righteous service to our fellow man.
Who's with me? | Would there be some sort of smart uniform? ____________________ Blackmail is a nasty word........but not as nasty as phlegm!
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Yeah, sounds alright, although I don't think I'd be much use at the killing bit, but I can make tea and do admin. Perhaps I'd hold the camera.
Can we start with John Caudwell, he used to own Phones4u, but now just does charity work. He does have a rather nice house though, which I've always liked, and a fair few bikes. We can set up camp there once he's out of the picture... |
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Been watching V for Vendetta recently?
If not....you should....it's good  ____________________ Currently Riding - 2002 Aprilia RSV1000 Mille |
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Fuck me, the revolt has started, we have H with his pump action pee be gun and bittern with his camoflage eyeliner .. ffs ... !  ____________________ We all choose what to think about ... |
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I don't think it would work to be honest, sort of going down to their level or something...
Also, there is a real danger of the movement being diluted and turning into some sort of militant ramblers group, overweight men in camo gear shooting each other with BB guns in the woods, going as far as hatching plans but ultimately just retiring to the pub for some real ale...
I could be wrong...
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It worked for the Red Brigade and Bader Meinhoff, they offed a good few of the cockcroaches.
And if this has been flagged to the security services...go fuck yourselves, you greasy little cock-sucking kapo fucking MAGGOTS. You and your progeny should be exterminated from the gene-pool, so future generations don't have to deal with your species-traitor class.  ____________________ "There's the horizon! Ride hard, ride fast and cut down all who stand in your way!" |
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Tsk, you Scots are all so soft.
I'll just go hide over there, don't mind me. ____________________ Photos and that |
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I'm going to add a bit of serious comment here, other than my rather sarcastic initial post. The problem that I think any such action will run up against is the decisions of who to kill. Who deserves it?
IMO, you can't just off all of the senior execs of big business, or even all politicians. You are tarring them with the same brush, which is unfair, especially when dealing out the ultimate consequence. Many will have families too, so it's not just the one individual will suffer.
Taking my original example of john Caulderwood and his nice hoose. Yeah, he's extremely wealthy, and has no doubt exploited and fucked over a fair few people in his time, indeed I think there are some questions over his conduct in his private life (like dumping his wife when he found a 'better' model, then dumping her for another), and from what I've seen of him he is a bloody arrogant guy. He does, however, now devote his time and a good portion of his wealth to charitable causes, has his own children's charity, does a lot of fundraising and one could even argue that he has personally saved an important Jacobean mansion from delapidation, funded from his own pocket. It really is rather nice, is it not?
So, does he get clipped? Probably a slightly grey area now, whereas others, like, ooh, Phillip Green are not so, given that all he does is lavish millions on living it up whilst operating businesses dependent on third world sweatshops to make the goods they sell.
Even some politicians may have truely wholesome reasons for being what they are (i.e. politicians), although I think the proportions will be rather smaller than those in business.
So, you're going to have to operate on a case by case basis. Many of these guys are there by hard work and good luck converging. Its hypothesis I know, but had Hetzer been born in different circumstances, who would bet against him succeeding in business in a big way? Certainly displays many of the traits necessary for it, intellect, conviction, confidence (hell, it's arrogance really[bourne out of irrefutable knowledge, I know!!]), determination, resiliance, etc etc etc.
This is now getting onto my next point, which I think I have mentioned before, many months ago. If you accept that not all people in certain positions (say MD's of private companies) are bad, rotten, nazi scum and warrent nothing more than execution, then logic follows that it is not the position but the person who is the problem.
So instead of executing legislators, businessmen and politicians, youneed to identify the personality characteristics which are so undesireable to warrant removal from the human race. Then kill anyone who has them, regardless of their standing in society.
This is a bit more difficult to sell to the populous, as it means that they, their family and freinds have a chance of being wiped out in the cull. It brings the reality close, when killing is focussed on a distant group of society you will get the peasants out in the street with their pitchforks. |
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| Damofo D.O.G. wrote: | I'm going to add a bit of serious comment here, other than my rather sarcastic initial post. The problem that I think any such action will run up against is the decisions of who to kill. Who deserves it?
IMO, you can't just off all of the senior execs of big business, or even all politicians. You are tarring them with the same brush, which is unfair, especially when dealing out the ultimate consequence. Many will have families too, so it's not just the one individual will suffer.
Taking my original example of john Caulderwood and his nice hoose. Yeah, he's extremely wealthy, and has no doubt exploited and fucked over a fair few people in his time, indeed I think there are some questions over his conduct in his private life (like dumping his wife when he found a 'better' model, then dumping her for another), and from what I've seen of him he is a bloody arrogant guy. He does, however, now devote his time and a good portion of his wealth to charitable causes, has his own children's charity, does a lot of fundraising and one could even argue that he has personally saved an important Jacobean mansion from delapidation, funded from his own pocket. It really is rather nice, is it not?
So, does he get clipped? Probably a slightly grey area now, whereas others, like, ooh, Phillip Green are not so, given that all he does is lavish millions on living it up whilst operating businesses dependent on third world sweatshops to make the goods they sell.
Even some politicians may have truely wholesome reasons for being what they are (i.e. politicians), although I think the proportions will be rather smaller than those in business.
So, you're going to have to operate on a case by case basis. Many of these guys are there by hard work and good luck converging. Its hypothesis I know, but had Hetzer been born in different circumstances, who would bet against him succeeding in business in a big way? Certainly displays many of the traits necessary for it, intellect, conviction, confidence (hell, it's arrogance really[bourne out of irrefutable knowledge, I know!!]), determination, resiliance, etc etc etc.
This is now getting onto my next point, which I think I have mentioned before, many months ago. If you accept that not all people in certain positions (say MD's of private companies) are bad, rotten, nazi scum and warrent nothing more than execution, then logic follows that it is not the position but the person who is the problem.
So instead of executing legislators, businessmen and politicians, youneed to identify the personality characteristics which are so undesireable to warrant removal from the human race. Then kill anyone who has them, regardless of their standing in society.
This is a bit more difficult to sell to the populous, as it means that they, their family and freinds have a chance of being wiped out in the cull. It brings the reality close, when killing is focussed on a distant group of society you will get the peasants out in the street with their pitchforks. |
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a) Are you paid an obscene salary (more than £50k pa)?
b) Are you responsible for, or have aided and abetted, decisions that have caused direct harm (physical, mental and/or financial) to more than 1000 anonymous members of the public?
If the answer to both the above is yes, you are executed. ____________________ "There's the horizon! Ride hard, ride fast and cut down all who stand in your way!" |
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At the risk of courting controversy, your rules seem a bit arbitrary. On the first, is it fair to shoot someone to death for being successful? These people make money but also generate wealth for others.
You're second rule is impossible to prove, so you'd end up winging it. Seems a bit slap dash to me.
Maybe head back to the pub for another Old Speckled Hen and a rethink?
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I must admit, I have trouble reconciling support for the SNP when I think about the nanny attitude they have regarding air weapons.
They keep refering to them as fire arms. They are not fire arms, they're air weapons. The UK government has resisted urges to change the law, up North it's knee jerk reaction time.
You already need to be over 18 (in effect 21) to buy an air weapon. If idiots are getting them its a policing issue. Banning them or introducing stupid laws governing their use is pointless, it takes them out of innocent hands, meanwhile the chavs and idiots hold on to them anyway.
They also said half of all gun crime was air weapon related. Not sure if that was a UK figure or a Scotland one.
The US right to bare arms refers specifically to a civil militia having them, not necessarily an individual. (Saw that on Bowling for Columbine.) I think there are to many stupid people in the UK to let anyone own a gun, on the other hand, it might thin out some of the lower orders...
I'm joking...
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 16 years, 315 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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