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Gazdaman
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Lock picking Reply with quote

Anyone done much?

I bought a set well over a year ago, and never really used it.
Until today I was in the £1 shop and bought a cheap barrel lock (It was £1...)

After about 15-20mins practise, I can open it pretty much every time in about 20seconds.

It's shocking!

The practise really fascinates me. I'm also amazed how much online shops charge for what are essentially some very thing bits of metal.

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PostPosted: 16:55 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a set. Filing cabinets are the best locks to pick. I can get into to one in about 4 seconds.

I've picked a bicycle lock and a couple of padlocks, but never had any success with ignition or door locks.

I can pick the Yale on my garage door but they have an extra security pin thing that I can't get past.
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got a bit of a shock when i found out it wasnt anything like splinter cell or fallout 3
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I play around with it a bit.
You're right, it is alarmingly easy to get into a cheap lock. If you fancy having a look at some more advanced techniques, I'd say have a look at some of the stuff that 2600's HOPE conference have recorded in the past.
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Re: Lock picking Reply with quote

Gazdaman wrote:
I'm also amazed how much online shops charge for what are essentially some very thing bits of metal.

Gaz


Kevin Mitnick (a well-known hacker) used to have business cards made from thin pressed steel, that had lockpicks punched into them, so you could carry a basic set with you wherever you went.
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

some cheap padlocks you can just ram a hacksaw blade all the way up and it moves the slide itsself, bypassing the lock mechanism.

i work hard at work.
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was about 10 I once lost the key to a suitcase containing my luggage for a weeks worth of camping, it only had a shitty padlock on it.

Luckily my brother had brought me back a nice kid size rambo knife from Spain, which I took with me since I figured if I got attacked by a bear I;d be able to fend it off and if I needed to catch my own food I could stab a rabbit and skin it.

Well that knife had it open in about 0.fuckall seconds, although the lock was useless after that. I've not had reason to try it again, but I guess it could be an interesting hobby to take up whilst the missus is watching shite on TV.

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PostPosted: 17:20 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.southord.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/JPXS-6.jpg

That's what I've got, think it was about £30 inc postage. Which is crazy.

And it opens a lock like this, with 5 pins in 20ish seconds.
https://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00HvkQRCEcgIbOM/Cylinder-Lock.jpg

I fancy picking up another pick set. Someone was selling one on the forum recently, wish I snapped it up.

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PostPosted: 17:31 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was younger I was really interesting but never got a set.

How much harder is house lock compared to a 5 pin?
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazdaman wrote:
I fancy picking up another pick set. Someone was selling one on the forum recently, wish I snapped it up.

Gaz


Why not just pick your next door neighbours front door? Laughing

This is the set I have, the Southord MPXS-11. Had it for a few years now. Comes in a little leather pouch and cost me about £15. It seems to have gone up in price a bit since.

https://knife01.cafe24.com/April/Southord-MPXS11-2.jpg


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PostPosted: 17:34 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say this is pretty much your average house lock. Providing you don't use a dead bolt.

I think 5 pin is about average.

https://www.nzeldes.com/Miscellany/images/Curiosities05.jpg

They look like that on the inside. You have to line up the break in the pin with the rotating barrel/housing. Then it'll spin. Obviously the more pins the harder it is.

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PostPosted: 18:09 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

See what I never got, was how do you manage to get all 5 lined up perfectly, without being able to see into the lock? Confused
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

truslack wrote:
See what I never got, was how do you manage to get all 5 lined up perfectly, without being able to see into the lock? Confused


turning pressure, then literally just run a pushy thing up and down them. works on yales anyway,
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

truslack wrote:
See what I never got, was how do you manage to get all 5 lined up perfectly, without being able to see into the lock? Confused


The right angled tool is a tension wrench. You put light pressure on the lock and as you flick up the pins they get stuck in the correct position.

The hard part about lock picking is getting the tension just right.
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to try and pick random locks as a kid, the only ones I successfully managed to pick were my Uncles Metro, Mini and something else he had at the time, I picked them with a key from a red cashbox, I used to put the key fully in-wiggle it-pull it out a touch-wiggle it and so on till the key was out-push it back in and turn, one open car...( The key went straight in in the first place as it was thinner than the normal key )...

I'm going to have a look at those sets posted above now though... Thumbs Up

Edit : Question, is it easier to pick with a loose set of picks or the flick set ?...
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do those bump key things work?
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it just learned by experience (trial and error) or is there somewhere you can read and learn about this?

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PostPosted: 19:49 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

GhostRider wrote:
Is it just learned by experience (trial and error) or is there somewhere you can read and learn about this?

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You can get lock picking books, used to have them in a catalogue I had, can't remember the name of it now but yeah...
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

GhostRider wrote:
Is it just learned by experience (trial and error) or is there somewhere you can read and learn about this?

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Somewhere you can read and learn about this.
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 04 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a look at this about a year ago because I thought it would be an interesting skill to have. I never got a kit because I was skint but learnt how to open one of these;

https://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00mMNEsVDarHbjM/Combination-Lock-5250-.jpg

With a coke can lol. Hasn't really served much use other than to open peoples lockers or unchain some one's push bike. Not to steal mind. Would put something random in a locker so they thought how did that get in there and moved the bikes about.
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PostPosted: 01:43 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac_Kaliba wrote:
GhostRider wrote:
Is it just learned by experience (trial and error) or is there somewhere you can read and learn about this?

GhostRider


Somewhere you can read and learn about this.


Yes gaytard, but out of the 672,000 hits that come up, perhaps someone is aware of literature and/or a site that is particularly useful i.e cut the wheat from the chaff.

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PostPosted: 02:41 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently had cause to break in to one of my own premises. I thought that I would have to engage the services of a locksmith and pay a king's ransom for his time. However, after spending a few minutes researching on t'internet I found out all that I needed to know in order to burglarize myself. The locks concerned were eurolocks and all that I needed was an adjustable spanner. Armed with said tool I was in within seconds. Little wonder that burglars have such an easy time getting into properties.
Be warned, if you use eurolocks on your doors then you should think seriously about upgrading your security.
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

GhostRider wrote:

Yes gaytard, but out of the 672,000 hits that come up, perhaps someone is aware of literature and/or a site that is particularly useful i.e cut the wheat from the chaff.

GhostRider


Or prick, you could try reading up on some of those 672,000 hits, particuarly the first page results to save yourself some time and see which information works for you.
You know, experiment. Wink
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 05 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep the bump keys work got a set i made here from blanks. Always fun to open someones front door for them in 2 seconds when you go back to there house.
Seriously though bump keys are scary when you see how fast they can open locks which is one of the reasons i have the 12G alarm mine and 2 separate alarms now guarding my bike.

i only use manual picks every now and again when im bored i prefer pick guns there alot faster
I used to use a brockhage manual pick gun for a while was pretty good at padlocks and yale door locks but is a pain in the arse to set right. Then i borrowed a KLOM electric gun from a locksmith friend to try and had one ordered within an hour. This things opened just about everything Ive thrown at it including the ABUS 55/60 padlocks and the lock on my £85 doberman chain which are a cunt to pick manualy.
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 06 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted this a while ago, might be useful.
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