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PostPosted: 11:40 - 12 Dec 2009    Post subject: Garage heating Reply with quote

Apparently there are low power consumption heating lamps available for garages. The dude that told me this said he has some that consume less than 1p per hour... although he now can't remember where he got them, make or branding... Evil or Very Mad

SO, can anyone post a link to something like this Question

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PostPosted: 12:15 - 12 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am using this one, not quite 1p an hour, its 20p an hour on maximum, but it has the benefit of blowing the heat, has a remote and you obviously control it so that once the garage is up to temp you can turn it down.

https://www.feelconfident.co.uk/b-amp-q/airforce-wall-mounted-heater-remote-control
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 12 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

electric heating is usually a very expensive way to heat .parrafin heaters are a fire danger and produce a lot of condensation which will eat into your chrome etcc over a few winters .


The more recent infra red electric heaters are the best option to go for ,they are three times more energy efficient than a typical electric blow heater and the heat can been a lot more directional.Electric fan heaters are responsible for overloading many wiring systems due to the amount of power used ,


you should check out halogen heaters.
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 12 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:31 - 12 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

invest in insulation, it`s a one off cost that will pay for itself in a couple of years,

When I layed the concrete slab for the base I put some polystyrene under the concrete
I used fiberglass 1 inch plus 3mm plywood on the sides, 3 inch plus 3mm plywood on the roof, 1 inch fire proof-sound absorbent foam on the door,

I also have a small dehumidifier 180 watts maximum, the dehumidifier costs about (£65-£70 to buy) £1.20 a week to run in the winter \ £0.20 during the summer.
The dehumidifier heats the garage to about 3 degrees above the outside temperature,
when I am in the garage I use a small fan heater but because of the insulation I don`t use it for long periods

the costs are offset by not having my bike, lathe, spare parts, etc. going rusty.

I`m not showing off just giving a few suggestions
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 12 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you talking about this?

https://www0.uk.shopping.com/xPO-DXLWP400
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 12 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexio wrote:
Are you talking about this?

https://www0.uk.shopping.com/xPO-DXLWP400



based on the 400watts that uses and 13.5p per kw/h
that would cost 5.4p per hour to run

to get some heater to run for 1p per hour it would have to be 74watts less than a regular an incandescent light bulb



it is possible to use a type of in ground to air heat pump that uses the differing temperatures to move heat (not create it)
and the only electricity required is that to power the small electric pump,
but the cost of installing that would out weigh the benefits


basically you can't heat your garage for 1p an hour using electricity,

you could using a waste oil burner though, the amount of oil you use in all your bikes would probably be enough to heat your garage Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 13 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The garage dude that told me about it...was just using it to keep the damp out of the air in his garage. I will check back with him maybe tomorrow... BTW this isn't to heat my garage... it's not damp...it actually my conservatory as there is no heating there.. and I don't want to use oil etc... electricity Thumbs Up

I want to keep my YZF damp free this winter...

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When I find out what athe garage dude was talking about I'll let yous know Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 13 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it is to keep the damp out, then use a dehumidifier?!!?!? ... gotta be lighter on the lecky and more effective way of removing damp than a heater!?!? Thinking
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 13 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you considered one of these? 1p per day and you could then leave it in the garage?

https://www.bikebubble.co.uk/
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 13 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think my dad had one of those. as you'd expect for the power usage it was fairly crap but probably kept stuff from going below freezing.

pic if i can find it again, basically a 60w lightbulb in a tube Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:19 - 14 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
i have one of those infra red/halogen type heaters in my mums summerhouse , er my workshop.
its fairly cheap to run, has a timer & rotates.
gets the place warm pretty quick, then i just put it on random.
so it only comes on when the temp drops to a specific temp. (fucked if i know what that temp is, lol)
wasnt dear to buy & its not that dear to run, considering its not on all the time.
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PostPosted: 10:50 - 14 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

your bro is a plumber/gas fitter aye??
why not get him to run a extra radiator out in to the conservatory and garage, if you wanted to be really creative you could run a heat exchanger off the flue on the boiler, and use some of the waste heat


electrically speaking, the most efficient way of heating is with a heat pump, maybe a modified a/c unit from a car you might be able to get down to your 1p an hour rate.... may be...
a halogen heat, while better than a regular resistive type bar or fan heater, they don't actually heat the air, they use uv, so only things that absorb uv light will get warm, not really much use in a cold garage
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 15 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spoke to the garage dude and he said he's using tube heaters. I can't find any that give a quote of 1p per hour. I think the oil heater might be best.

@Hmmmnz, yeah the heat waste re-use would be cool (!) the extractor/flue thing at the side of the house is always chucking out heat.. if that could be re-used that would solve alot of problems Karma
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 15 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

vmax.dude wrote:
Spoke to the garage dude and he said he's using tube heaters. I can't find any that give a quote of 1p per hour. I think the oil heater might be best.

@Hmmmnz, yeah the heat waste re-use would be cool (!) the extractor/flue thing at the side of the house is always chucking out heat.. if that could be re-used that would solve alot of problems Karma


I can't see how any heater can be 1p/hr.

Given that 1kwh (1 kilowatt for 1 hour) is what 10p?? At 1p/hr, that is basically saying it is only consuming 100w i.e. ~16% less than two 60w lightbulbs ... I don't care how 'efficient' a heating system someone has, it is not going to do any significant heating on 100w, there is just not enough power/energy there to do so!! Wink
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 15 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heating was probably too strong a word. I should have put 'keeping the garage dry/ removing moisture' Karma
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 15 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spoke to the garage dude and he said he's using tube heaters.

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philips thermo tubes,,
I have used them to heat lizards and other nice pets.

A one foot tube is about 40W

Assuming that electricity costs about £0.13 per Kw/Hr, 170 hours in a week thats about £0.89 per week.

I think they go up to about 300W
You could wire it into a central heating thermostat.

Just ideas.
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 15 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Vincent, that very interesting Thumbs Up I've rated your post thanks.

@Tzr.steve, I think that's more like it. Maybe the garage dude is confused about the actual price. Even a £1 / week is worth it Karma
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PostPosted: 03:49 - 16 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could just buy a dehumidifier..
you can get them with power consumption as low as 100w
they are essentially mini heat pumps (or fridges working backwards)
they don't provide much heat, but they do remove the moisture
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