Car gearbox help.

[L3G3ND_MTX]

Ok ive got a peugeot 106 xnd elation 1.5 diesel 1995.

When i first got the car a few months ago everything was perfect, i passed my test a few days ago and have been driving it around, gradually the first and second gear plus reverse have been getting stiffer and stiffer.

I litteraly have to RAM first gear in, feels like im gonna snap the gear stick off, second gear is still stiff but not so bad, reverse grinds and clunks as it goes in.

Yes i have been using the clutch and gears correctly and no idea where this problem has come from, had my gear-box oil changed earlier today just in-case it was that (old car been stood up for a while) that had absolutly no effect and did'nt help at all.

Got told tonight it could be the linkage, when you rev the engine quite a bit and push first in it goes in slightly easier, still very stiff but goes in.

Any help on this would be ideal so i can narrow it down instead of having a garage rummaging round charging me loads by the hour.

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[Alexio]

If you know that there is nothing wrong with the clutch and the gears still aren't playing nice even when you pretty much match up the right engine speed before trying to shift in to gear then in my mind that would definitely suggest only the gear changing linkage is at fault, although I must confess to knowing absolutely nothing about the gear linkages in cars.

If you've already pinpointed this as a likely cause as your problem though, I would just take it to a garage insisting that this is the cause of this problem and see what they find.
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[delvey91]

Ive got 106 van 1.5 and mine does the same. It hasnt got any worse over 20,000 miles since ive had it so i dont worry. One thing you shouldnt do is drive with your hand resting on the gearstick as that wheres out the linkage alot!
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[10 pence Short]

How do the gears feel when the engine is off? Could well be the clutch not disengaging enough that makes it hard to select the gears.
If it were the linkage the gear stick would be quite sloppy whether the engine was on or not. look at the gearbox and towards the back there will be rods/linkages,
get someone else to move the gearstick from inside the car whilst watching the linkage move, you should be able to see any wear.

Could also just be adjustment in the clutch cable, usually auto adjusted I think, is the clutch bite very low ie you have to put the clutch pedal all the way to floor to get any gear at all?
If so will be a clutch/cable problem.
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[Rejimbo]

all 106 gearboxes are notorious for being made out of cheese. Reverse doesnt sound like a problem, it will crunch everytime you put it on.

As for first and second, does it crunch when you bang the gear in and grind if you push but not hard enough? If so its likely the synchros have gone

Worst comes to worst, if your at all mechanically minded you can change the gearbox in half a day, its incredibly simple

[Ariel Badger]

It is the cold weather making the oil thick, the syncro cones are sticking together.
That is my theory at least, my Nissan van is doing the same.
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[Cigaro]

Does the car try and move forward with the clutch down? Does the engine bog down when it's in gear?

Sounds like the clutch cable might be about to go to me.

[L3G3ND_MTX]

Thanks for all the replys, its got worse now, if the engine is running and on i cannot get it into first at all i will litteraly snap the gear lever doing it, if i roll very slowly push as if im going to put it in first then rev the engine (clutch still in) it pops straight into gear no troubles at all.

Ive tryed the cold weather theory and that involves getting slightly thinner or fully synthetic gear oil so it heats up quicker, but then when my car was nice and warm the problem would go away when in fact it just gets worse.

Car doesnt try to move foward if clutch is down, no engine doesnt bog down either so clutch i dont think is at fault.

I'm not just going to take some lads word its the linkage he just jumped in and tryed the gears out and said its most likely the linkage its a common problem on peugeots.

Yes the gears do grind if i don't litteraly ram it in, as i said above ive figured out a nack to get it into gear with the slight revving whilst moving slowly thing, its still killing my elbow (already got bad joints pretty much all over) so need to get it sorted.

I was thinking synchro's or linkage and you guys have helped pretty much confirm it, well if theres any more replys to this post with even more help would be ideal, its going down the garage tomorrow so he will check it out but i will tell him thats what i think it is.

Karma is now being given to all for the help, much appreciated guys!

EDIT: Just to add, the gears feel perfectly fine when the engine is off, the gearstick is'nt 'sloppy' not really sure what you mean by that, alot of play? or moves around in the gear slots?

My thinking if its the clutch not dis-engaging properly then i would have the problem in all of my gears but i only have it in first second and reverse, reverse does'nt just grind a little bit i mean it really fucking grinds and clunks when it goes in, 2 days ago my gears were as smooth as butter, i pulled up in a car park, left the car off for 30 minutes started it up and all of a sudden this problem came up?

[Phoenix]

I'd agree on it being made much worse by the cold weather, my BMW box has got significantly stiffer in the morning until it warms up, the trucks at work are suffering too, allsorts of problems apparently caused by the cold (icing sensors, sticking switches) incredible considering they're designed in Scandinavia

If it's grinding when you put it in reverse, when you go to engage it, declutch in neutral then shift it into 1st and immediately into reverse, should stop it grinding.

[L3G3ND_MTX]

Right thanks very much for all that help guys, got it sorted, surprisingly it was'nt any of the problems anyone thaught which im glad because that would of cost alot.

Somehow my clutch cable had managed to un-do itself so my clutch was pretty heavy (was like it when i got it so did'nt think twice) and it started making my gears harder and harder to change, all sorted now and for free, good job my dad knows the guy

Ahhh pain free elbow and silky smooth gear changes are ace!

Again thanks for the help, even though it was'nt the problems said (it could of been by the symptons from the car) karma has been given.

[Cigaro]

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[L3G3ND_MTX]

Sorry 10 pence i did'nt see that was kind of scanning through it all to try and get all the info before i went to the garage, my mistake atleast it was'nt something expensive

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