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| Harold_Shand |
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 Posted: 22:43 - 17 Dec 2009 Post subject: PC let off in fatal accident |
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https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/8418921.stm
Well, a police van doing 77mph in a 40... loses control and causes an accident which later becomes fatal. He blames a tyre with low pressure, not excessive speed and this gets him off. How?
If he knew about the tyre, why was he going so fast in a VAN?
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| GhostRider |
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| Hetzer wrote: | It took the jury five hours to reach their verdict. I suspect the state manages to plant 'friendly' jurors in cases like this, somebody to talk the others around. |
Yeah but even so, surely someone with a modicom of morality and sense would tell the others to get fucked theres no way he was not guilty.
Hold on, I think we've covered this before where I stated that probably being bored shitless and wanting to go home the jury will just agree on whatever to get out of there, it's pretty sad but everyone thinks for themselves until it happens to them and then they scream "wheres the justice?". Obviously we can't say for sure that this is what occured in this instance, but it does make you wonder....
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| Rejimbo wrote: | I dont see the issue here, assuming the "tyre pressure" was just an excuse and he didnt really have prior knowledge of it, then its an unfortunate accident after he's responding to a high-priority emergency.
Put the boot on the other foot, if the call was someone being murdered/raped etc etc, and he responded by driving at the precise speed limit you'd be the first to blame him for the crime being able to take place. |
Nowhere does it state the nature of the 999 call, so you cannot claim it to be a high priority emergency. I recall a radio talk from a paramedic stating that a large majority of 999 calls are non-emergency calls such as old ladies calling because their cooker isn't working, I imagine calls to the police are no different.
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| Rejimbo wrote: | Sorry, forgot i read another article on the story, https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/8279110.stm
| Quote: | Prosecutor Tim Parkin told the court that Pc Hart was responding to an emergency call, which was classed at "zero" - meaning it was a high priority. |
Seems to be people are taking a story with very little detail given and blowing it completely out of proportion |
Regardless I was under the impression that police were supposed to undergo training for driving under such circumstances. I'm sure somewhere along the line they have reiterated to them that taking on bends at 77mph on a 40 road is generally a bad idea.
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Probably a good job he never made it to the scene of the alleged crime anyway, given that the victim would have probably got banged up judging by todays standards.......
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| Harold_Shand wrote: | | chris-red wrote: | ...and when the police are travelling the speed limit and they take 10 minutes to get to your house while your family are being butched and raped I'm sure it would be a different sorry.
Things like this are inevitable, and I don't think we can judge based or bias media coverage. Even the top figthers pilots in the world crash once in a blue moon as will the most advance of drivers. It sounds shit but if he was responding to a highiest priority call it would have been a murder or violent assault in progress. I'm sure his training was up to stratch and he was driving within what he thought where is limits, accidents happen and personally I would rather the odd accident where somebody gets killed than the police (or any emgergency services) taking a considerably longer time to turn up at an incident. |
Mmm, violent assuault or murder in progress... so you murder a young girl getting there?
He's training went out the fucking window, that's obvious. This death was preventable, it's mental to think that deaths caused by gung-ho cops are 'inevitable'. However, I assume you are close to uniforms and will see no fault in them.
To put the shoe on the other foot again... how are you going to feel if your soon to be wife was murdered by a cop in this same situation? Still inevitable? Just a case of "Ah, well, these things happen"? |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 16 years, 274 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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