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 squishio Spanner Monkey

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 Posted: 12:11 - 28 Dec 2009 Post subject: Check what insurance group specific models are |
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Hi All
Pondering over the idea of getting a new bike, but insurance costs are playing a big part in the decision.
Living in north london, without a garage and being 19 are producing ridiculous costs.
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2005 Triumph Daytona 650 (£3400 value) > TPFT = £11,250
I read somewhere that the daytona 650 was insurance group 15, so I want a website where you select the make and model of the bike and it tells you what insurance group it is in. I figure it will be quicker doing this than continuously filling out insurance checker forms.
Does anyone know of something like this?
Cheers! ____________________ Current - Hornet 600, Transalp 650, X140 Pit, GPZ400R
Past - SY125, GT250, GT650, CX400, CBF600, Bandit 600, SL1000, GT250 |
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 G The Voice of Reason
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 Posted: 12:19 - 28 Dec 2009 Post subject: Re: Check what insurance group specific models are |
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Different companies use different systems, even norwich union add extra weighting to their standard groups, so it's hard to get a definitive answer.
Best bet is to get some quotes with something like the bike insurer site (use fake details, they'll spam you anyway they can.)
This is an out of date list: https://www.vauntage.co.uk/bike_groups.htm |
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 P.addy Red Rocket
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11k for a daytona?!
shit man.. i live in probably the roughest estate in Kent, insurance on my riding pals tl1000r is only £700 FC at 19..
That is some heft damage... how about you buy the bike for me..store at my locale, you know..safer + cheaper
I believe MCN has reviews/Insurance groups on their site. |
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 covedude Renault 5 Driver

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GREAT site for ebay bike searching G .. thanks ...
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 crackfinder Crazy Courier

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squishio
if you use go compare, you fill your details in once, then you just change the bike details everytime you want a new quote...... you just log in and click new quote, all your details are there and you just put the make, model, cover and value in...it's a doddle  |
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Yes, but having G's site tabbed next to my ebay .. i can see what group they are, ie above around 13 is a no go area for me at present ...  ____________________ We all choose what to think about .... |
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 squishio Spanner Monkey

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have already done the gocompare thing.
but the results are not coming up with anything below the cost of the bikes I'm entering
I want to check the groups just to see out of interest to see if a lower group does change the insurance price.
I am starting to lean towards giving up and getting an old cbr or similar but I am drawn to the daytona as the cbr's etc are just a bit too common for me
Meaning no offence to those that ride them, they are nice bikes but I like something a bit different to everyone else, like my Hyosung GT250 you don't see one of them every day or month  ____________________ Current - Hornet 600, Transalp 650, X140 Pit, GPZ400R
Past - SY125, GT250, GT650, CX400, CBF600, Bandit 600, SL1000, GT250 |
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Fucking Prik, there you go, a real reason to rate abusive ....
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 squishio Spanner Monkey

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just tried using my friends address who lives in high wycombe...
2005 daytona 650 ridden by me locked in a garage...
£560
Same details without the garage...
£708
Really bloody annoying!!!
So, I live in an area of apparently high crime, so insurance rates are higher, thats fine.
But as a result but how the hell can they exceed the value of the bike!!!! ____________________ Current - Hornet 600, Transalp 650, X140 Pit, GPZ400R
Past - SY125, GT250, GT650, CX400, CBF600, Bandit 600, SL1000, GT250 |
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If you use Confused.com it's a piece of pee to just amend the quote and stick another make of bike in, especially if you trawl the adverts with piccies and get the reg numbers
I do it quite a lot - I was thinking of a 748 but I was suddenly put off when I ran the quote through  |
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 squishio Spanner Monkey

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I just did a TPO with all the same details...
Wycombe address...
£392
North London address...
£384
So I guess the third party aspect makes bugger all difference in terms of the chances of me hitting a ferrari in london rather than a punto in Wycombe
ohh hum....  ____________________ Current - Hornet 600, Transalp 650, X140 Pit, GPZ400R
Past - SY125, GT250, GT650, CX400, CBF600, Bandit 600, SL1000, GT250 |
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Just get a cheap zx6 and use some of the spare cash to get a fancy paint work, or maybe some pink-spray cans, which'll make you a lot more distinctive than having a slightly different make of sports 600 . |
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| squishio wrote: | just tried using my friends address who lives in high wycombe...
2005 daytona 650 ridden by me locked in a garage...
£560
Same details without the garage...
£708
Really bloody annoying!!!
So, I live in an area of apparently high crime, so insurance rates are higher, thats fine.
But as a result but how the hell can they exceed the value of the bike!!!! | You're bright.
Ever thought, it's maybe not about the value of the bike you're trying to get; but more about what that bike could damage with you operating it?
If you hit a kid using a moped costing 90quid insurance, chances are you'd injure them.
If you hit a kid on a CBR6 costing 1500quid on insurance, chances are you'll kill them and damage more of the surroundings.
Capeesh?
EDIT - BTW, This site: https://www.vauntage.co.uk/bike_groups.htm#HONDA probably isn't quite true anymore. MY NS costs 211 a year to insure, the CB350 I quoted for last week came back as 91quid. That site says its in a higher insurance group, and my bike is like an 11iirc - not 4. ____________________ Roger wrote: Women don't get damp for clingy puppies. Get some better happy pills, hit the gym & buy a medallion the size of a dinner plate. Job done |
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How the hell you lot pay this much for insurance is beyond me - I'm not exactly old, only passed last year and my renewal on a CBR6F is only £140  |
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 chris-red Have you considered a TDM?

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They fuck you when your young. I'm 22 and If I wanted to insure a 1.1 15 year old Fiesta TPO it would be £1200  ____________________ Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
Skudd:- Perhaps she just thinks you are a window licker and is being nice just in case she becomes another Jill Dando.
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Try and give these guys a go, came up cheap on most insruance qoutes for me. On the comparison websites look in to going fully comp as it can often work out cheaper (and better) than TPFT, all my policies have been FC due to this.
https://www.simplyinsurance.uk.com/
Also the problem you are finding is because youre looking at the 650. I had a look in to this bike and found the 600 was noticeably cheaper to insure, possibly to do with capacity, possibly age but most likely both.
I'd also do what G said and consider getting a J1 ZX6R. Very good bikes, more than fast enough, good handling, relatively comfy, build quality is good enough for all year round and the insurance is cheaper than any 600 of a similar vintage. |
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And why do they expect one to pay double the norm for a hugger seat cowel and crash bungs ...  ____________________ We all choose what to think about .... |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 16 years, 293 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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