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Curtmeister
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 09 Mar 2010    Post subject: Just a quick restrictor question. . . Reply with quote
Can you fit used restrictor kits to your bike? Will they restrict as well as they do new?
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Paddy Blake
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 09 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
It depends on which one it is.Most would be fine.
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Curtmeister
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 10 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Paddy Blake wrote:
It depends on which one it is.Most would be fine.


Cheers mate
That should help save a few quid then Razz
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Paddy Blake
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 10 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
What type of kit is it.Some go in exhaust/cdi/inlet.
The cdi one I would make sure to get the right one and check if other electric part are need with it.
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Curtmeister
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PostPosted: 00:23 - 10 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'm loking for an older bandit or SV650 so im guessing it'll either be carb or air intake washers. Doubt i'll get a fuel injected one so I don't think it will be CDI.
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That_Hornet
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 10 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes you can re-use inlet washers.

If you can't find any at a reasonable price, just get the dimensions, then get some made up. My gpz wahsers cost me 2 cans of Dr Pepper. Thumbs Up
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kate t
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 10 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
ThatHornet wrote:
Yes you can re-use inlet washers.

If you can't find any at a reasonable price, just get the dimensions, then get some made up. My gpz wahsers cost me 2 cans of Dr Pepper. Thumbs Up


What about the paperwork to prove the restriction?Razz
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That_Hornet
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 10 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
kate t wrote:
ThatHornet wrote:
Yes you can re-use inlet washers.

If you can't find any at a reasonable price, just get the dimensions, then get some made up. My gpz wahsers cost me 2 cans of Dr Pepper. Thumbs Up


What about the paperwork to prove the restriction?Razz


Thumbs Up Mr. Green Thumbs Up
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kate t
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 10 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
To ThatHornet: well, I wish I'd spoken to you earlier Laughing
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That_Hornet
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 10 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
kate t wrote:
To ThatHornet: well, I wish I'd spoken to you earlier Laughing


Funnily enough i payed for FI restrictions too.

The found this. Laughing

Its always the way........ Wink

Never again.
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 10 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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No legal requirement for proof that the bike is under 25kW / 33hp.

All the best

Keith
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kate t
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 10 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kickstart wrote:


No legal requirement for proof that the bike is under 25kW / 33hp.



Really? I was under the impression that the paperwork was the most important part, mind you saying that... my insurance company never asked for my certificate. What's the point in going through the FI? Is it a case of proving on a Dyno reading the 33bhp?... sure there has already been a thread (or several) on this - sorry Embarassed
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That_Hornet
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 10 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
kate t wrote:
Kickstart wrote:


No legal requirement for proof that the bike is under 25kW / 33hp.



Really? I was under the impression that the paperwork was the most important part, mind you saying that... my insurance company never asked for my certificate. What's the point in going through the FI? Is it a case of proving on a Dyno reading the 33bhp?... sure there has already been a thread (or several) on this - sorry Embarassed


You don't need to prove anything. By law it has to be restricted to 33bhp.

Then the police have to prove that it isn't.

The certificate means that it was, restricted at the date on the paper. It has no legal influence what so ever.

FI is a complete scam, The word their sales pitch as if you need THEIR kit for it to be legal. Bit in reality its just the face its restricted. Through either inlet, throttle, exhaust or any other place....

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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 10 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi

The legislation just says net power of under 25kW, nothing about proof. FI seem to try and make it look like the paperwork is the important bit, but when pressed they have now admitted it is pretty just a receipt.

All the best

Keith
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Curtmeister
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 10 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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You don't need to prove anything. By law it has to be restricted to 33bhp.

Then the police have to prove that it isn't.

The certificate means that it was, restricted at the date on the paper. It has no legal influence what so ever.

FI is a complete scam, The word their sales pitch as if you need THEIR kit for it to be legal. Bit in reality its just the face its restricted. Through either inlet, throttle, exhaust or any other place....


Cheers for the advise fellas Thumbs Up much appreciated Smile
So do you need to have it professionally fitted or anythin?
Cos my dad and I are capable of fitting it if not Smile
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kate t
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 10 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
ThatHornet wrote:



You don't need to prove anything. By law it has to be restricted to 33bhp.

Then the police have to prove that it isn't.

The certificate means that it was, restricted at the date on the paper. It has no legal influence what so ever.

FI is a complete scam, The word their sales pitch as if you need THEIR kit for it to be legal. Bit in reality its just the face its restricted. Through either inlet, throttle, exhaust or any other place....

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Cheers for that Thumbs Up
This is certainly a grey area, that is not explained very well at all. There should be more information available (and taught at test stage) regarding the legalities!
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That_Hornet
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PostPosted: 08:02 - 11 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes you can fit them yourself. Thumbs Up
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Moonie
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 11 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kickstart wrote:
Hi

No legal requirement for proof that the bike is under 25kW / 33hp.

All the best

Keith


No offence to Kate T, but Keith do you ever get bored of saying the same thing hundreds of times a week? Laughing
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 11 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi

A bit, but not really surprising it needs repeating given how many people have been mislead by those trying to sell them things.

All the best

Keith
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kate t
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 11 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Moonie wrote:



No offence to Kate T


None taken Smile

I realized that I was probably asking questions that have been answered many times before. Now I know, next time it crops up I'll be able to help and give Kickstart a break from repeating his self!
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johnsmith222
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 11 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
kate t wrote:
Moonie wrote:



No offence to Kate T


None taken Smile

I realized that I was probably asking questions that have been answered many times before. Now I know, next time it crops up I'll be able to help and give Kickstart a break from repeating his self!


I guess it's a good thing it constantly gets repeated on here, because it not only informs yourself, but also any potential newbie who thinks they need to give FI their money.

"a friend" didn't have a restriction certificate or their bike ever restricted. I know some people like to pay for the FI kit then take the washers out, but that's just a waste of money imo.

I never made up one of those fake restriction certs. There's a number on there to let the person phone and double check. If the police wanted to know if my bike was restricted then I was willing to call their bluff on whether or not they'd put it on a dyno.

The only way that I've heard people getting caught is either admitting it's not restricted or crashing their bike.

I think you're talking 6 points if you're caught.
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Ingah
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 11 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
For those possibly unsure (or just interested), i've previously wrote an in-depth piece about 33BHP because i was pretty fed up with the confusion over the situation:
https://blackmotorcycle.webs.com

The upshot of it for those who don't bother to read the link, is +1 to what Kickstart said.
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kate t
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 11 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Cheers for that Thumbs Up
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 12 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi

By the way, someone I know who runs a dyno shop and who also has the engineering skills and equipment to make up parts to restrict a bike says he just buys the restrictors. While he could make them, by the time he has had the bike on and off the dyno several times and made / modified the bits several times in cost you may as well just have bought the kit.

All the best

Keith
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