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PostPosted: 16:08 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Pilot Road 2's Or BT021's - ORRR BT023's Reply with quote

In need of new tyres pretty soon and have narrowed it down to these two, any experiences on either one to help me decide. The price difference is next to nothing, so which are best.

Will be on a CBF600, bit of everything riding wise but more sports touring than balls out supersports Karma

And sorry for the age old which tyre question which is raised almost weekly!


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PostPosted: 16:30 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is my front BT-021 after around 6.5k ish, the edge of the centre wear has a nice ridge either side which doesn't half tip the bike when cornering, can be a bit scary at times.
The centre is fairly sqaured off and the tyre has a triangular profile too Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got 21's on the Bandit and while they're longer lasting than the previous 45's, they're not as confidence inspiring around corners in the dry and especially not in the wet. I plan to try the Pilot 2s next time round.
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Pirreli Diablo Stradas on my TDM, I really like those.
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ever since I switched to P.R 2's I've never looked back.

I used to always run Bridgestone's but I always felt they took an age to warm up and sometimes would give me the impression that running over a ladybird, even at 50% lean would risk upsetting them and result in the bike escorting me to the pavement.

The pilot road 2's have always felt super planted, even in wet conditions and I would recommend them 110%
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

it would seem the PR2 is regarded as being the best, but i just need convincing being a bridgestone bitch for ages! cheers guys, and any more insights are more than welcome
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a BT021 rear fitted to the Bandit just last week (to replace the old BT020).
I'm not a fast rider by "sports rider" standards, but the 021 seems to handle everything I've done so far... motorway, A & B roads, frost, rain and dry weather etc

(I've never used PR2's, so can't give a back-to-back comparison)
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a PR2 convert from the church of Bridgestone. I've had 020s and 014s on the bike and neither felt as good as the Michelins.

However I've not run on 021s so my opinion is only valid as far as strongly recomending the PR2s. I can't say for sure that the 021s aren't as good.
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stradas are decent, however I hear lots of people raving about the PR2s. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never used the BT21s but the PR2s i have had two sets and to be honest, they're amazing.
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

nasty wrote:
This is my front BT-021 after around 6.5k ....
The centre is fairly sqaured off and the tyre has a triangular profile too


There's about another 2K in that tyre! Wink

I love BT-021s because they are predictable and handle the cold well. Yea they square off a bit easy with commuting miles but never had an issue with grip wet or dry.

PR2s I have never used. Is there a £££ difference?
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Used them both, PR2's are better probably...

At least if they are the same price i would go for the PR2,

Also consider Dunlop Roadsmarts, also good maybe slightly cheaper
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kris wrote:
nasty wrote:
This is my front BT-021 after around 6.5k ....
The centre is fairly sqaured off and the tyre has a triangular profile too


There's about another 2K in that tyre! Wink

I love BT-021s because they are predictable and handle the cold well. Yea they square off a bit easy with commuting miles but never had an issue with grip wet or dry.

PR2s I have never used. Is there a £££ difference?


the difference in price at the place i'll get them from is like £5. to complicate things further, bridgestone have introduced the new sports touring BT021 replacement - the BT023. they dont make buying their products easy do they!

now im even more uncertain Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive used BT021'S, they are fine but the fronts do wear funny.... Neutral
Every bike i have changed tyres on that has been running them has a very strangely worn front.

I havent used the Michelins, but i've had people saying good things about them. The other one's that are worth a try are the Dunlop Roadsmarts. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kris wrote:
nasty wrote:
This is my front BT-021 after around 6.5k ....
The centre is fairly sqaured off and the tyre has a triangular profile too


There's about another 2K in that tyre! Wink

I love BT-021s because they are predictable and handle the cold well. Yea they square off a bit easy with commuting miles but never had an issue with grip wet or dry.

PR2s I have never used. Is there a £££ difference?


Kris, there probably is plenty of life left in it, it'll be about another 500 - 1000 miles before it gets changed as long as it still performs ok.

The 6.5k is mainly motorway/A road miles, no twisties Sad So what I should of said earlier was that I like the BT-021's and they seemed to have lasted ok considering only the rear is dual compound and still has more tread than the front did brand new Thumbs Up

I'm sticking with the BT-021 until I need to replace the set as they do what I need them to do.
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been on the same fronts for my dunlop roadsmarts for a year now. I've put on 10k miles on them and they still retain their round profile. Ridden in the winter and in the snow, I can guarantee that they have sufficient grip and feedback in the cold conditions (discounting other variables such as black ice and oil). I won't put any other tyre on my Blade. They're very good in summer and offer enough grip, milage and feedback to keep me happy. So, on a litre bike, I'm getting something like 7k on a rear and my front's still going strong. Will need replacing in the next 1000-2000 miles though. I won't be going back to bridgestones after the BT020. I was going to try the 021's, but then the roadsmarts came out cheaper than the others. Coincidentally, I'm happy with the profile of the tyres since I used to run with dunlop qualifiers.
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

nasty wrote:
This is my front BT-021 after around 6.5k ish, the edge of the centre wear has a nice ridge either side which doesn't half tip the bike when cornering, can be a bit scary at times.
The centre is fairly sqaured off and the tyre has a triangular profile too Rolling Eyes


my rear BT016 looks much better than that after more than 6.5k miles!!

do you ever corner? your commute must just be one long road back and forth Very Happy
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PostPosted: 23:37 - 04 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give these a look in, I was not expecting the result I got from them especially after coming off Pilot Power 2CT's and on to a sports touring tyre. Impressive!

https://www.bikechatter.co.uk/reviews/60-street/1049-metzeler-z6-interact-review.html

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PostPosted: 00:18 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

nasty wrote:
This is my front BT-021 after around 6.5k ish, the edge of the centre wear has a nice ridge either side which doesn't half tip the bike when cornering, can be a bit scary at times.
The centre is fairly sqaured off and the tyre has a triangular profile too Rolling Eyes


That tyre is fucked, I'd be replacing that ASAP.
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My front BT021 looke identical to Nasty's. The yres offer good grip and feedback, but once they wear and start to go a funny shape, the hanling goes to shit.

I've got PR2's on now, but only did about 80 miles on them just before winter.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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my rear BT016 looks much better than that after more than 6.5k miles!!

do you ever corner? your commute must just be one long road back and forth


LOL! Laughing Yeah I do corner but not much on my commute, it's mainly straight dual carriageway and that's what around 95% of my mileage is.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 05 Mar 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i went for the PR2's in the end, going for a longish run tomo so hopefully they wont disappoint! cheers for all the opinions Karma
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