New bike safety advert

[MattHirst]

Sorry if it's been covered before but it's new to me.

Just got eurosport on waiting for the WSB and noticed a new (to me) bike safety advert.

Basically goes on about people on bikes crashing, mainly on clean dry roads on rural bends with the rider loosing contrl. But then says that most people blame it on diesel, someone pulling out etc etc. It's got little clips of someone getting KD round bends etc and stacking it into a wall on a bend.

Which got me thinking, it is probably very true. How many people do you actually hear/read simply saying they blame it on themselves. More often than not you hear them say "some cunt in a BMW pulled out 1/4 mile away" or "The lorry infront of me decided to dump 5 gallons of diesel on the road" or whatnot.

Had a look on google and youtube and can't find a video of it. It ends with the well known 'To die for...?' with the picture of the dude getting KD.
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When I crashed a demo CBR 600 RR getting my knee down around a roundabout a blamed a car pulling out .
Though only because it was a company event and the CEO was paying the £500 excess .

I actually blamed it on the tyres .

[MattHirst]

That's fair enough due to the circumstances, i'm sure most of us would do the same

I mean the general 'I just binned my bike' threads we see on here.

Like my accident i had almost 2 years ago, hit a bump mid corner which threw me into a tank slapper. The bump was deemed the cause of the accident but maybe inexperience caused me to come off (ie, not being able to recover from a tank slapper or whatnot).

But how many times do you read people blaming it on someone/something else just because they are embarassed to admit they were at fault.
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[Ichy]

Its becoming human nature to blame everything except yourself for any failing.

A large percentage of riders I go out with don't read the road. They spend a lot of time reading how to get their knee down, or wheelie, then go out to show the rest of the world how good they are. Unfortunately its not intuitive and they are putting too much thought into getting the seating position right, counter steering, looking for the apex, etc, always trying for 100%. If they just pulled back a bit and started thinking about road surface, tree lines, road position, and general signs they would be very good riders.

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[MattHirst]

Not disagreeing with you at all, due to all the sedatives they pumped into me i don't remember anything at all after leaving tescos that evening

From what i was told by the police, i did almost manage to hold the tank slapper but due to it being a left hand bend it put me on the wrong side of the road (with a car coming the other way). Trying to get out of his way i low sided which put me underneath the car Didn't help it was at 11:30 in the evening so cold roads and dark which made the bump harder to see. Live and learn as they say.

I agree with the 'nothing i could of done' statement aswell. Even though someone else maybe at fault (pulling out etc), i'd say atleast 75% of accidents are avoidable just by reading peoples body position, eye contact etc. If you can sense they are going to pull out then you take action before they do. I often find it's quite obvious when someone is going to pull out on your, i know sometimes these things aren't avoidable but the majority of the time, they are.
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[Hetzer]

My general rule of thumb has always been '100% for the track, 70% for the road'. If you still come off on the road it can hardly be your fault.
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[Groove]

I last blammed kittens.

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[Ichy]

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[steppen22]

Most biker accidents are the bikers fault.

Most accidents could have been prevented with greater foresight and road obs etc.

The accident I had (got wiped out by a car) wasn't my "fault" - however, I can admit to myself that I could have prevented it if I was riding to a higher standard than I was. Frankly, if I was reading the road better, it wouldn't have happened to me.

Road craft for bikers is often as absymmal as it is for drivers. Riders like to "play victim" though becuase they are constantly told that they are victims. It's bullshit. True "accidents" are extremely rare and most incidents are at least 50% rider error, usually a lot more at summer - 85-90% rider stupidity.

I feel sorry for car drivers having to put up with impatient idiots on sportsbikes.
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[Flip]

I hate bikers that say "I put her down".

No you didn't. You fcuked up and dropped it because you're not the riding god that you think you are.

[G]

Same with 'learning' to steer around an obstacle than use maximum braking while having target fixation on it (something I'm still not great with) - not much that can be done if you panic a bit which is only natural, though experiencing minor ones a few times can mean you don't panic so much and have time to think. Not knowing that this is what you need to do of course isn't going to help.
While on a track there's less to hit, there also tends to be a lot higher speeds, so not sure I want to be 'practicing' this out on track!

[Hetzer]

[Al]

[Hetzer]

[metalangel]

I wondered wtf was going on with the guy sitting on a bench in the middle of the sandtrap, yeah. It's only when you see the bus that you start to figure it out.
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