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Bubbs
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 03 May 2010    Post subject: TV Clairvoyants Reply with quote

Anyone here watch this tosh and are you actually sucked in by it all? I'm sure many of you on here do believe that they are real but I just thought id pass on some information so you can make a more informed decision.

Here are two well known TV "psychics"

JOHN EDWARD
https://goodluckwithallthat.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/john-edward-large.jpg

LISA WILLIAMS
https://prvegas.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/lisa-williams-21.jpg

I used to believe in it all until I saw a very interesting interview that was conducted by Richard Dawkins, where he interviewed Derren Brown about the speech and language used in these sessions and how they trick the crowd into believing it all. The psychology behind it is very interesting, and I find it amazing how easily people can be manipulated by these frauds.

Anyhow here are the links to the videos:


(note: there are 5 videos, each last 10mins)

Vid 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xswt8B8-UTM
Vid 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQyfsCNFyRY&feature=channel
Vid 3: not available for copyright reason's which is a shame
Vid 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbKOoyK7FCc&feature=channel
Vid 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q9BN4WUULI&feature=PlayList&p=55A986E56B106611&playnext_from=PL
Vid 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EslEBK1ZTBU&feature=PlayList&p=55A986E56B106611&playnext_from=PL

Now these people piss me off no end, they are charging £300.00 for the privilege of getting some fake to bring up all that pain you experienced from loosing a family member for their own gains. A front row seat to John Edward cost's on ebay £299.99. My personal view is that this is sick and they are trampling over peoples lives. My family are sucked in by it all and refuse to watch these video's and I'm reluctant to show it to them as they want to believe it so badly. It's a strange conundrum to be in... do you tell people the truth or let them believe this with a chance of causing more hurt?

If you have taken the time to watch these videos, or you have an opinion regardless then I welcome a discussion/debate.

Anyhow that's my rant out the way. What are you opinions?

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PostPosted: 18:56 - 03 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why did you believe in it in the first place?

It is fairly obvious it is bullshit.
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 03 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why did you believe in it in the first place?

It is fairly obvious it is bullshit.


Dunno if you watched any of the programmes they do. It's pretty convincing to be honest. Before I realised the tricks and techniques they use I thought they were pretty bang on the money with most people the talked to, thought it was real. Depends where your beliefs lay I guess. I personally believe there is something out there so was sucked in by it.
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 03 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks a bit copy and pasted so I doubt bubbs actually wrote it. If he did it's explainable he is welsh. lol.
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 03 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carl_steveo wrote:
It looks a bit copy and pasted so I doubt bubbs actually wrote it. If he did it's explainable he is welsh. lol.


Cheeky bastard.. I think you'll find I wrote every part of that. They only thing that was copied was the vids and the pics.

It seriously annoys me. I just took my time with the post for everyone else's benefit. Neutral
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 03 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought there might be a possibility that you wrote it. Hence the second half of my post lol.
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 03 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, they are indeed all cunts.

I saw an advert the other week for some tart who markets herself as a "Stand-up medium", just when I thought I'd seen it all, they make the genius combination of talking to dead people and comedy.

To be honest though, if I had a scam going whereby I could charge £300 a head to feed people a load of shite for a couple of hours, I'd sleep pretty well at night, because at the end of the day, if you are retarded enough to buy into it, you pretty much deserve what you get.

A fool and his money are soon parted, as they say.

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PostPosted: 19:17 - 03 May 2010    Post subject: Re: TV Clairvoyants Reply with quote

I'm a cunt!
https://goodluckwithallthat.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/john-edward-large.jpg

I'm a genuine nutcase, but not quite as much as you... money please..
https://prvegas.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/lisa-williams-21.jpg

Mrh, they're dicks for doing what they do but you can't blame them Laughing You've got to exploit the weak sometimes, especially due to their own ignorance.
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 03 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people can do it.
Some can't.
Some scam you.

Just the way it is. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 03 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It;s funny how the dead never really have much to say of interest isn't it.

"Hi, it's mom, I'm fine, I love you, *insert message to living to say move on with your life/stop blaming yourself etc*"

It'd be great to go to one of these shows, get picked out by them, then halfway through their "grandma says she missus sunday dinners with the family" speech, just shout out "Fuck all that shit, where'd you leave the money old bag? Is there a god? What about heaven and hell, do they exist? Hows about next weeks lottery numbers? Whats the meaning of life? Where exactly are you? What does it look like? Whats the weather like, if indeed theres any weather at all? Who murdered you and where can we get the evidence?"

or even, when they tout the line "Your father said he misses you very much and would love to spend just one more day with you on earth", reply with "What, so he could molest me just one more time?". Worm your way out of that one Derek! I'd pay the £300 to see him tackle that clanger!

Yep, all in all it's seems as though death, according to these mediums, is actually rather dull, and theres not much going on there.

Live life to the max......because death is pretty boring really.

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PostPosted: 21:35 - 03 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bubbs wrote:
It seriously annoys me. I just took my time with the post for everyone else's benefit. Neutral


Bubbs, the television does have a button to enable the viewer to make a decision about what they watch, actually, there are several. Press one, and voila no more serious annoyance. Thumbs Up It's amazing how far we've advanced in technology... Idea
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clanger wrote:
Bubbs wrote:
It seriously annoys me. I just took my time with the post for everyone else's benefit. Neutral


Bubbs, the television does have a button to enable the viewer to make a decision about what they watch, actually, there are several. Press one, and voila no more serious annoyance. Thumbs Up It's amazing how far we've advanced in technology... Idea


Ha ha, I don't watch these programmes anymore, I was back home for the weekend on the bike and everyone back home was like " OOoh Lisa Williams, she's brilliant." I watched 3 mins of it before getting pissed off and leaving the room.

I don't actually own a TV anymore, I have given up on daytime tv etc as it bores the bejesus out of me.

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or even, when they tout the line "Your father said he misses you very much and would love to spend just one more day with you on earth", reply with "What, so he could molest me just one more time?". Worm your way out of that one Derek! I'd pay the £300 to see him tackle that clanger!


I've been offered a ticket to go see this Lisa Williams, I might take up the offer and try what you said mate. Could be interesting. Apparently they start saying things like "Your blocking the energy", or "Oh I'm loosing him/her."

What would be the first thing you asked to an actual ghost if you could?

As it goes I watched ghost last night as I hadn't seen it since it first came out, quite a funny film fair play.
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bubbs wrote:

What would be the first thing you asked to an actual ghost if you could?



After soiling myself and then getting cleaned up, assuming one could converse with it, pretty much the questions I listed above. Throw in a few physics questions along the lines of time travel and what not, life on other planets etc.

See if a certain type of psychedelic has anything to do with the etheral realms.

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PostPosted: 13:45 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was a mate of mine it would definitely turn into a conversation about watching celebs etc in the shower, who has the nicest bod, and general stoner type questions that I find funny.
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't mind being a ghost for a while but I don't really believe in any of that pish so...

Someone on here said scratch cards were a essentially a tax on stupidity. I would say the same thing about paying to watch shows presented by the people pictured above.

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PostPosted: 15:02 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've watched a few of these because I find them interesting, I have even been to see Colin Fry but that wasn't my choice.

The thing is though I have seen and heard things that are unexplainable. But wether or not people can actually communicate with ghosts I don't know.
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derren Brown'S alwAys plaCing sUblimiNal picTures in his television shows.
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

JAMSXR wrote:
Derren Brown'S alwAys plaCing sUblimiNal picTures in his television shows.


Ha ha, how long did that take you I wonder?

I quite like Derren Brown's earlier stuff where he's out with the public. I'm not a big fan of these bigger show's he's done though, the more magical bollocks. The psychology stuff he does interests me a lot.
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

CHR15 wrote:


as a ghost, are you invisible, and if so. can you perv on people.

is there cheesecake in the afterlife.

can you get pissed when your dead.

in that order.


All at the same time ftw
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carl_steveo wrote:
I've watched a few of these because I find them interesting, I have even been to see Colin Fry but that wasn't my choice.



And how was he?

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PostPosted: 16:06 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't really remember mate I had been to the pub before we went. I don't remember anything awesome happening. Infact I do remember that the guest medium who done a 20 minute slot in the middle seemed 'better' than Colin Fry was.
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw Sally Morgan at a show in LLandudno. Useless bint. Laughing

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I can see a man, he lies down after work on a blue couch.


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OMG that's what my husband did blah blah. The message is for us and stuff...


And that was the only thing she said all night that someone could relate too.

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PostPosted: 17:55 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont bother to watch them shows I find them boring
Neutral and to charge people that amount of money is ridiculous! it is making money out of peoples grief. I do know mediums and such b, I did pay like £3 just to see once and was interesting but I would take it with a pinch of salt.The first time I was 17 at a fare and paid £40!!! rip off and all of it was a load of crap. I seen right through them. None of it ever came true but I was young and nieve. I do like ghost hunting programs that arnt taken over by mediums and stone throwers for entertainment.
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mate of mine's mrs, (still with me?)

Uses an online psychic and asks questions on the site that are totally fkin weird, cant put too much info in case it gets spotted and gives the game up8o)
Plus others like "is my husband having an affair?"

He said she should be asking things like
"does my split personality go out stealing while i sleep"

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PostPosted: 19:57 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody that asks a supposed physic if their partner is having an affair and believes the answer deserves to be single.
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