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Ant132
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 03 May 2010    Post subject: Brake bleeding kits Reply with quote

Hi,

I changed the pads on my bike a few weeks ago due a spongy feeling lever and the fact they were close to the limit so i also cleaned everything up which involved replacing the fluid.

But now, even after new pads the lever still doesnt feel very firm and is quite spongy. So it must be air still in the system?

What brake bleeding kits are the best for this (cheapish though), i found this one on ebay. It says you can pop the tube on, open the bleed nipple and pump away until bled but do they really work?

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PostPosted: 15:20 - 03 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A brake bleedin' kit? Just get thee some clear plastic tube my local motorfactors sells 2 metres for £2.

What you do is pop a ring spanner on the bleed nipple, then put the plastic tube over the end of it. then put the end of the plastic tube in some brake fluid. This prevents back flow of air into the system.

Pump the brake lever a few times at the master cylinder, use a cardboard tube to hold it in, then undo the bolt. Air should come out along with some brake fluid. tighten it up then pump again and repeat. Top up the master cylinder now and again make sure you do not expose the hole to air. The bubbles should become less and less and eventually you'll hear a creaking noise this is the pistons pushing against the pads and most of the air should be out of the system.

You can actually bleed the brakes without a plastic tube at the top if you want I used to do that, but it will take a very long time.
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 03 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a bike what Itchy says is the right thing.

For a car etc I would use an "easybleed" kit.

The one that you have a link to is not the best as the second you have an air leak in the pipe you are back to square one.

You can buy Easybleed brake bleeding nipples. but they are twice the price of standard bleed nipples.

Do what Itchy says, get the knack, and from then on it`s the easiest and cheapest way.
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 03 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
i always find the reverse filling/bleeding method the easiest.
a metre length of washer hose & a 25ml or 50ml syringe from the chemist.
cut 6 inches of hose off the metre lenth & connect to syringe. (the remainder can be used for bleeding the way suggested above)
suck up some brake fluid from your fresh bottle of brake fluid.
connect the syringe/pipe to the bleed nipple.
loosen off nipple & "inject" the brake fliud up.(this will also shove any trapped air up into the reservoir)
simples.
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 03 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a little piece of rubber tubing with a bung in the end and a slit in it. Allows fluid out of the slit but nothing back in.

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PostPosted: 18:37 - 03 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same kit adverticed on Ebay i got it in Halfords for about £5. I works amazingly well. You loosen of the bleed "niple" (Gigady) attach the tube and pull your leaver a few times and its all over.

A tip for the sponge feeling your getting now is just keep pulling the lever and it should stiffin up.

I did this on a YZ 250 and worked
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 03 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pull the brake lever and cable tie it tight, leave it overnight and job's a goodun.
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 03 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

SlimRick wrote:
Pull the brake lever and cable tie it tight, leave it overnight and job's a goodun.


Sometimes doesn't work though.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 03 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with above I have tried various 'kits' and nothing works better than a bit of clear tube and a pickle jar.
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Agree with above I have tried various 'kits' and nothing works better than a bit of clear tube and a pickle jar.


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PostPosted: 14:49 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:
SlimRick wrote:
Pull the brake lever and cable tie it tight, leave it overnight and job's a goodun.


Sometimes doesn't work though.


Only works if there's air in the fluid - if there's any moisture in there it does bugger all.
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

SlimRick wrote:
Pull the brake lever and cable tie it tight, leave it overnight and job's a goodun.


this does work me for removing the spongey feel.

Generally bleed as usual till you get a proper resistance then bungee tie it over night to get the rest of the bubbles out.

Works a treat Cool
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 04 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
A brake bleedin' kit? Just get thee some clear plastic tube my local motorfactors sells 2 metres for £2.

What you do is pop a ring spanner on the bleed nipple, then put the plastic tube over the end of it. then put the end of the plastic tube in some brake fluid. This prevents back flow of air into the system.

Pump the brake lever a few times at the master cylinder, use a cardboard tube to hold it in, then undo the bolt. Air should come out along with some brake fluid. tighten it up then pump again and repeat. Top up the master cylinder now and again make sure you do not expose the hole to air. The bubbles should become less and less and eventually you'll hear a creaking noise this is the pistons pushing against the pads and most of the air should be out of the system.

You can actually bleed the brakes without a plastic tube at the top if you want I used to do that, but it will take a very long time.


+1 with Itchy.
My "kit" involves a short length of aquarium tubing, an 8mm ring spanner and an empty coffe jar.
Only takes a few minutes
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 05 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.bikeit.co.uk/tools_product.asp?ID=226
Have one and its brilliant.
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