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chris-red
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 07 May 2010    Post subject: Thread pitch Reply with quote

How can you tell what pitch a thread is 1/1.25? What is most commonly used on bike fairings?
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 07 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never seen a fairing bolt that wasn't standard pitch.

So that's M5 x 0.8 or M6 x 1.0
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 07 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Not sure there is a choice between metric coarse or fine for small bolts like those used on fairings.

List of the threads and pitches are here:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_metric_screw_thread

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PostPosted: 21:52 - 07 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 95% sure it is M6 x 1 thanks guys.
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 07 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/chris-red/53dd23ea.jpg

It is 12mm on the head 6mm on the shaft and 19mm long, it is m6 x 1.0? I'm guessing yes?
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 07 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Yep, M6x1. Is that an alloy bolt anodised black?

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PostPosted: 22:36 - 07 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure, it holds on the Missle launchers I'm replacing them because the heads are slighly Orangy with rust and stand out as there is not a spot of rust anywhere else on the bike. Am I right in thinking ally shouldn't rust? They are also Torx heads which are a pain.
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 07 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

swap 'em for these https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/m6-x-10-stainless-button-head-screw-allen-bolts-x-10-/260562616695?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_DIY_Material_Nails_Fixing_MJ&hash=item3caabe0177
i've bought stuff frome here recently.
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 07 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a set of calipers and measure from peak to peak on two adjacent threads and you'll be measuring the pitch.
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 07 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

No they are too short and are Silver they need to be Black or they will not look right. Also the head looks too big.
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PostPosted: 01:01 - 08 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need a thread pitch guage they are only a few £, No more guessing.
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 08 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,
i thought you said they were M6 x 1.00, the ones i linked to are 10mm long. (1cm)
they also do other lengths though.......
& they are standard button heads.
i thought you had a problem with rust, you wouldnt have that problem with s/s.
im guessing the cases which they bolt into are black then.?
guess you will have to get anodised black then?
as black carbon steel will rust also.....
definately get a thread pitch guage, i got one in a cheap tap & die set i bought years ago & has been invaluable.
looks like this https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/METRIC-WHITWORTH-THREAD-GAUGE-IDENTIFY-MOST-THREADS-/380225989240?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item58873c2a78
you could try something like this https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/M6-x-12-Button-Head-Screw-Black-High-Tensile-Bolt-x20PK-/300422776194?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_DIY_Material_Nails_Fixing_MJ&hash=item45f297c582
or do what others do, & take the old bolts to any hardware store & get them to match them?
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 08 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

stirlinggaz wrote:
hi,
i thought you said they were M6 x 1.00, the ones i linked to are 10mm long. (1cm)
they also do other lengths though.......
& they are standard button heads.
i thought you had a problem with rust, you wouldnt have that problem with s/s.
im guessing the cases which they bolt into are black then.?
guess you will have to get anodised black then?
as black carbon steel will rust also.....
definately get a thread pitch guage, i got one in a cheap tap & die set i bought years ago & has been invaluable.
looks like this https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/METRIC-WHITWORTH-THREAD-GAUGE-IDENTIFY-MOST-THREADS-/380225989240?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item58873c2a78
you could try something like this https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/M6-x-12-Button-Head-Screw-Black-High-Tensile-Bolt-x20PK-/300422776194?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_DIY_Material_Nails_Fixing_MJ&hash=item45f297c582
or do what others do, & take the old bolts to any hardware store & get them to match them?
cheers,
GAZ




M6x1.00 designates the diameter and pitch of the threads, not the length of the bolts.


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PostPosted: 20:14 - 08 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

that'll teach me to skim through posts, oops
i really should have known better, seeing as i spent the day before drilling out sheared off manifold bolts & tapping new threads.
i thought he meant M6, standard pitch, 10mm long,
i'll get my coat.
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 08 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Japs seem to have a fetish for fine pitch fasteners.
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 08 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fine pitch threads are stronger and you get more clamping force for the tightening torque. Also, because the minor diameter of the thread is larger on a fine thread the bolt is less likely to snap.
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PostPosted: 08:13 - 09 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Fine pitch threads are stronger

That depends upon the material the female thread is in.
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PostPosted: 09:45 - 09 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Fine pitch threads are stronger and you get more clamping force for the tightening torque. Also, because the minor diameter of the thread is larger on a fine thread the bolt is less likely to snap.


They also tend to be more prone to seizing in.
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 09 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure I can agree with that. I've tried and I can't think of a time when I last had a seized fine thread bolt on a bike. Of course, they tend to be used in areas not commonly associated with seizing like exhaust studs etc. I see no reason why a fine thread bolt should be more prone to seizing, other than the fact that they are usually a better class of fit.

Fine thread bolts on a bike tend to be used where larger clamping forces and resistance to vibrating loose are required. Engine mounts (screwed into the alloy), caliper mounts, camshaft sprockets, tappets,spark plugs etc.
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 09 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the fuck are you lot on about.
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