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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 18 May 2010    Post subject: Worth skimming this disc? Reply with quote

It's very close to the runout limit of 0.03mm. (I think the official engineering term is exactly one midges ballhair off at 0.028mm). So it'll get through this MOT but only just.

There is 4.1mm of disc left. The service limit is 3.5mm.

Enough meat there to be bothering with? I'm not sure how much gets taken off when they do a skim?

EDIT: Probably looking at £30-40 for skimming. £230 for new discs.
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 18 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

can you not find someone with a big enough lathe?, if it was mine i would turn it so it just scratched the surface off the lowest bit and you do have .6m to play with which to a good bloke is plenty. say take 0.08 in total maybe.
just me and i would do anything to avaoid paying that much for new discs Embarassed
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 18 May 2010    Post subject: Re: Worth skimming this disc? Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
It's very close to the runout limit of 0.03mm. (I think the official engineering term is exactly one midges ballhair off at 0.028mm)


or a "gnats cock" to be more accurate
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 18 May 2010    Post subject: Re: Worth skimming this disc? Reply with quote

For the mot - rarely seen them check in that much detail.
Also, often if you hide the limit marking, they won't bother to check.
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 18 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

jimspeed wrote:
can you not find someone with a big enough lathe?, if it was mine i would turn it so it just scratched the surface off the lowest bit and you do have .6m to play with which to a good bloke is plenty. say take 0.08 in total maybe.
just me and i would do anything to avaoid paying that much for new discs Embarassed

Be better off getting it on a ring grinder wouldn't you? Much more accurate and a better finish.
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 18 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

only 2 reasons why i would ever skim a disc

1 - it has a lip that makes installing pads difficult, and then i would only really cut the lip down

2 - i dont like that it has and uneven surface

ive never bothered with number 2

if its close to the limit why take more off?
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Walloper
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PostPosted: 22:57 - 18 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought a Baw Hair was 0.003"
Never mind a Lathe operators accuracy.
I worked with a Grove crane driver who could lift a 6 ton engine a Baw Hair no problem.

I would pay £30-40 for a skim.
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 18 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say put it through it's MOT first and if it passes the brake efficiency test and there are no problems leave it (unless you experience negative problems yourself). If it fails then go for a skim..... or possibly better still... look for a s/h disc.
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 01:00 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should have phrased that differently.

It'll get through the MOT this time with a small argument as to how significant the slow speed pulsing of the brake lever is on the rolling road. I can categorically state it's within service limits and I know the tester well enough that he'll believe me.

However, it WILL pulse. It did last year and it's worse now. No problem at higher speeds but I really ought to do something about it.
I'l pop it in for a skim and if it lands up too thin, I'll just have to get new ones.

I'm planning to swap the forks and callipers for a VTR front end in the near future so I don't really want to be fitting new pads only to throw them in the bin after a couple of thousand miles when I fit 4-pot callipers (it's a VFR750).
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PostPosted: 08:12 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that VTR as in SP1/2 or fireblade Confused.
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Is that VTR as in SP1/2 or fireblade Confused.


Firestorm.
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erk - well should be a few around as I thought storm owners often tried to swap them for blade ones etc Smile.
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Erk - well should be a few around as I thought storm owners often tried to swap them for blade ones etc Smile.


It has 4-pot opposed callipers. It fits straight in using the original wheel. It has adjustable damping.

The VFR has 2 pot sliding callipers and preload adjustment only.

Fairly common mod for the 750s.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are going to swap out the front end anyway I would consider the skim.
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 19 May 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or a happy medium?

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