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SnowTigeress
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PostPosted: 03:43 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Pup-Project: Honda CB125TD-C; Resto & Beyond... Reply with quote

http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/heap/imag0829.jpg

OK, I can put together a flat-pack wardrobe from IKEA, so making a motorbike out of THIS lot can't be TOO hard can it?!

Alright, so HOW did I get into this mess? Well had my bike stolen nearly 5 weeks ago
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It was a Horrible Chinese cruiser thing. An AJS-Regal Raptor DD125E, to be precice. And I hated it. But My B/F had convinced me to keep it long enough to get my training & test. and made a few adaptations, like fitting lower bar-risers and narrower bars, and i was JUST starting to think it was ALMOST alright, and had even polished it, when it got nicked. And it hadn't been found so had to look for another 125 so that i could do my rider training,before going on my test.

Well my bf was helping me, and he`s got a cb750 called 'Black Dawg', and I wanted a 'Project' so I thought "I know I'll go for the cb125, and call it the 'pup'"
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So we hunted ebay for cb125 and ended up winning one, in the end for £310. Well it looked a little scruffy with the paint work the old owner did on it but that was an easy fix...
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we went to collect. b/f checked it over and he said that it was a cb125t with cb125tdc body work,as it had twin shocks.... But all was reveiled when we got it home.

As I was after learning mechanics, what ever bike I was going to end up with, was going to be rebuilt. Completely, 'no expense spared', Ha-Ha! B/F's started wincing at the price for having forks re-chromed and having new locks and exhausts!

Bill, excluding THIS heap, has just topped £1300, and we haven't looked at the engine yet! (see website for costs to date)
YES! It WOULD, have been cheaper to go buy a three year old CBR125..... BUT I guess I wouldn't have learned so much, and by the time we're finished, I SHOULD have pretty much a brand-new bike..... well, once the B/F has been convinced to get them shiney bits for me! He-He!
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'The Heap' as it I now call it, as thats what it is, the heap in the pic at the top! As it arived on our drive.
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Anyway I got started stripping it the very next day.
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Now, that BAD paint-Job started with LOTS of BAD filler!

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Battery Box 'Botched' with a bit of tin-plate.
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Broken Clutch Cable, 'fixed' with.... well YOUR guess is as good as ANY-ONES!
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ONLY the b/f noticed that it wasnt the cb125t but the cb125tdc had the mono shock linkage and part of the frame removed,and twin shocks drilled into the frame and swingarm.....i wasnt pleased.......
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Frame after being stripped, the twin-shock mounts bolts through holes drilled in the seat rail of the frame and the end-plate of the swing-arm! B/F's an engineer, and HE missed that the way it had been hid!

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Frame from another bike, notice the horezontal rail between the engine loops with the bracket on for the shock-absorber. It was completely MISSING from this frame!
So we 'scrapped' it. Time to do something different.
(See the Full Story @ [url]http://snowtigeress.webfreehosting.net/Pup_04_The%20Heap.htm] Snowtigeress's Blog-Spot[/url]
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Teflon-Mike
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PostPosted: 04:28 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: The accounts so far! Reply with quote

Since I'm funding this project 'till her insurance settlement comes through, and THAT is only likely to make a small dent in the overall budget, I think its worth providing just HOW MUCH this little escapade is costing!

Honda CB125TD-C - pretending to be a T £310.00
Honda CB125TD-C - Frame, s-Arm & links £ 45.00
Honda CB125TD-C - one ACTUALLY worth doing! £360.00
Frame & Arm Sand-Blasting £ 40.00
Tyress £ 70.00
Inner-Tubes £ 20.00
Battery £ 20.00
Chain and Spocket Kit (Extreme X-Ring) £ 54.99
Wheel Bearing £ 24.00
Wheel Bearing Seals £ 10.00
Rear Shock-Absorber (std) £ 80.00
Rear Swing-Arm Bushes £ 24.00
Rear Swing-Arm Pivot Pin £ 16.62
Head-Race Bearings (Taper Roller) £ 27.03
Master Cylinder Overhaul Kit £ 25.85
Parts to Overhaul Caliper £ 46.00
Front Brake Pads £ 9.99
Brake Hose - Goodritch Braided £ 21.00
Rear Brake Shoes £ 8.23
Brake Lever £ 5.88
Clutch Lever £ 5.88
Chrome Bash-Bars (These were NOT part of the deal!) £ 28.00

To Get
Suspension Link Bushes (Hate to Guess!)
Front Fork Re-Chrome (Quoted £160)
Front Fork Seal (DSS 6.46)
Front Fork Gater (Busters 7.99)
Cush Drive Bushes (DSS 4.64ea)
Other Stuff TBD!

Excluding the 'Heap' which comprises the first bike bought, the one that pretended to be a twin-shock; something that doesn't have a dozen hard to get at, get out, source and re-fit bludy bushes in its suspension........ and the garage clear-out job-lot of bits we bought to get a frame with an unbutchered swing-arm, and all the links we needed to make a propper CB125TD-C from, which demanded the brand-new £80 shock-absorber..... the bill for what has been PAID for so far comes to just a few pennies over £900.

This has NOT got the us a rolling chassis yet. This has NOT looked at ANYTHING in the engine department. And it DONT include the gallons of paint being perloined from my other projects being thrown at it by the ruddy gallon!

Take HEED. The idea you can buy a bike 'cheap' and 'do it up' is a falacy. Bikes that NEED doing up tend to need a LOT of doing up!

Ecconomics of the business are NOT in your favour. YES we could have cut a lot of corners if we were JUST trying to get a serviceable motorbike, but it would not have saved MANY penies, and a if you cut corners building a bike, you risk not getting round'em when you ride it!

This bike Cost £350, and we might have made ecconomies by merely cleaning up the old brakes and suspension, and using the tyres that were on it. But, it would have STILL been an 'old-nail', nothing more, and it would STILL have cost more than one I bought the other day, 'The Black-One' (when she gets round to mentioning it, that is in brilliant original condition, will have a full 12months tax and test on it, and sell, probably for about £700.... hardly what we have spent on PARTS on this bike so far!

Also note the effup in my buying 'the Heap'! This is the KIND of risk you face, buying tatty old bikes..... and I thought I was the kind of anorack that could spot that kind of thing quite easy, having been about bikes all my life, and fixed and fettled so many of them!

This is NOT a game for the feint hearted! BUT all WILL be well....

Oh... and one last thing.... she has just five weeks left to get this thing built back up and presented for test.......... THAT is the dead-line, becouse at THAT point kids break up for school holidays and will want the garden back!

And this is her FIRST project. Last October, I had to teach her how to tension the chain on that cruisery thing! So she is NOT exactly an 'experienced' mechanic!

But, 'enthusiasm', she has in spades, I'll tell you!
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SnowTigeress
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PostPosted: 04:36 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Re: The accounts so far! Reply with quote

Quote:
HOW MUCH this little escapade is costing!


hey im worth it:P

anyway you said i was never going to have a bike that was cheap,needed work but not gettng done,as twonk ex didnt even have a socket set

plus its only money not a life
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

£900 Shocked


Christicles.
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Errr. Embarassed

There are certain elements of that motorcycle that look distressingly familiar to me.

The "battery box" is one. As are the bits of inner tube for the seat to rest on.

The CM125 2-1 carb manifold being another. Does it have a single CB125TDC carb attached?

Is the fuel tank sediment bowl made of mostly plastic metal?

Last time I saw my CB125TDC, it was being used as a prop in a B-movie some of my mates were making.

It got thrown off a cliff with a dummy attached twice, "blown up" several times with stage maroons and was then chucked in a skip somewhere near Hawick.
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i love these little bikes, i have one in bits in my shed waiting to be rebuilt (with out the frame which was beyond repair after sandblasting) i will be watching with interest
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you on CBT? I could be wrong but I believe the Cb125 tdc is illegal for learners to use as it has too much power.

Not that you have an icicle's chance in hell of being caught.
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

So off hunting again................ won another cb125 that was in too good a conditon to strip and make project pup...
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It had a dead engine, but otherwise was in wonderful original condition.... So the B/F claimed it as 'HIS' project, and has muttered about head-gaskets, wrapped it in a Duvet Cover, and suggested it might make a 'useful' little bike for following Newbies on IF he ever goes back Instructing again.... I suspect he'll sell it though. He found two more, before we were done, and he keeps pointing to bits of the REALLY ratty one that came as the 'Donor' and saying exitedly "Number FIVE-EEZ-ALIVE!"

But, at LEAST it gives us something to look at to see how stuff SHOULD be, this time!

So then we found and won project pup..... for grand sum of £410, but when we got there, chap knocked £50 off the win-price, as soon as my B/F mentioned the head race bearings were clonking!

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B/f JUST managed to grab a few pics of it when we first got it home, but had FOOLISHLY bought me my own socket set......

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"Ok i had a little help from Tef as the screws had been rouneded off"

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Tef told me to stuff the engine,he actually meant to put rags down the holes to stop dirty and water getting in

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not bad for a girly,dont you think?
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Can-Do Girl that does spanners TOO!
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to see like a typical woman you changed outfits halfway through Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Nice to see like a typical woman you changed outfits halfway through Laughing

Wink Jup, she does that. I have to watch out. she has a tendancy to nick my sweat shirts too! sometimes while I'm still wearing them! I get all exited......... turns out all she wants to do is stick a load of washing on!

chris-red wrote:
Are you on CBT? I could be wrong but I believe the Cb125 tdc is illegal for learners to use as it has too much power. Not that you have an icicle's chance in hell of being caught.


He-He... yes she is on CBT, but hopefully not for long.

As for 'power-restrictions'; well goes like this. ALL CB125TD-# 'Super-Dreams' are Learner-Legal 12bhp compient. Honda introduced the model about 18months ahead of the 125 Learner-Laws specifically to meet them.

So answering your question, NO, it doesn't have too much power to be L-L.

But it COULD have had... he-he.....

Wording of the learner laws when they were introduced gave 'restriction-exemption' to bikes built BEFORE introduction of the law, circa some month in 1983. They figured that there wouldn't be MANY bikes out there that made more than 12bhp, and not much more ANYWAY, & if learners had to ALL buy brand new bikes to be legal, there'd be uproar.

In my 'Stable' I have an original, 1977, first of the mono-shock, air-cooled Yamaha DT125MX's.

Motor as stock delivers about 16bhp, and as long as I dont bore it out, I can tune the thing as wildly as I like, 20bhp is very attainable on them motors if you dont mind plugs oiling up and or risking the odd 'nip-up'.... and it is PERFECTLY legal to be ridden on a provisional licence with CBT and L-Plates! (I dont, I have to restore it properly yet, and I have a full licence anyway, but its nice to know SOME-ONE could!)

Reason I was probably a bit blinded to the faults of 'the heap' is that its a 1982 bike, on an 'A' Plate.

That was the change-Over year between the last of the CB125T 'Twin-shocks', which had 'full-power' motors with I think different cam-shaft profile to offer 17bhp, and again, perfectly Learner-Legal, and being a T-Shock a much less involved restoration, not having so many nadgery bludy bushes to press out & find replacements for, and a PAIR of shock-absorbers that new, cost HALF as much as the single ruddy unit for the 'Super-Dream'!

Now, THAT plan blown out the window by the discovery that the heap was a 'TD-C' not a 'T', I lucked in on a garage clear-out of 'bits' that included another A-plate frame (with V5!), its swing-arm & linkages, amongst some other bits and bobs still losely or less so attached! THAT is the 'other' frame in the pics showing how the Heap's frame was butchered.

Found it on e-bay, reasonably for under fifty quid, and local, so hit the 'Buy-It-Now' button... thought all would be well....could use 'The Heap' as donor to rebuild up the 'good' frame. OK, not a T-Shock, but making the best of a bad-job.... and being an 'A' plate, registered in '82, pre 125 Learner-Laws, when it came to looking at the engine, which is something she needs to do to 'learn her mechanics' we could rebuild it to 'T' spec with 17bhp, and as the age grants restriction-exemption, it would still be perfectly L-L

Only bloke didn't get back to me, and the bike that she's 'doing' came up.... so we bid on it. Won. Went to collect it. Came home..... checked messages.... one from chap with frame "Just got back off holiday. Sorry for not replying sooner, expected auction to run to end! When would you like to come collect?" So I have that sat in 'the heap' too.

At the mo, tho' it matters little. Bike she's building I think is on a 'C'-Plate and technically SHOULD be 12bhp. Motor that came out of it probably doesn't even make that. But when it gets put back together for test, it may have a better one in it, but again 12bhp complient. Becouse right here and now, there simply isn't the money in the budget to do a complete engine tear and build.

So, the bike will get built up with all the critical bits, brakes, steering, suspension & tyres, done to the BEST possible standard, though there is still a small question mark hanging over the forks.

I'd like to get them properly re-chromed so that they wont chew up seals, BUT bottom line is, seals are only £7 a pair, fork-rechroming is £150ish. We can afford to replace a LOT of fork seals and do 'preventative' replacements before they 'go' for the cost of a re-chrome. Though with what's been spent on the back-suspension, it DOES seem like short-changing the project a bit.

So, the fork-rechroming and the full engine build and possible 'tuning' is a secondary 'phase' of the project. Priority here is to get this bike up and running, inside the month, with the best cycle-bits we can give it so it rides well, and she can get out there while sun-shine is still a possibility, and get some training done, and her test booked.

Once the bikes in service, a pair of forks and a spare engine, can be worked over at leasure and fitted up when convenient.

So IF she gets a 'tweeked' motor, she probably wont still be on CBT she SHOULD, (are you listening dear!) have got her full licence. And building a bike up to this standard, its a bike she WILL keep after test. Only way the ecconomics are in ANY way viable. And it will earn its keep, as a rather more 'plush' than the usual, but cheap to run commuter. If she wants to go for a big-bike-blast (After passing your test dear!) She can take my 750.

nightshaddow wrote:
i love these little bikes, i have one in bits in my shed waiting to be rebuilt (with out the frame which was beyond repair after sandblasting) i will be watching with interest


Oh I wish you hadn't said THAT! Shes nervouse enough about the fact she doesn't have a frame at the moment, 'cos its at the blasters!

Mind, I have err..... I think err 6 frames now, including the scrapped one! Some of them even have engines under them, and one or two a bits of body-work!

They ARE very endearing little bikes, aren't they? since paying them a bit more attension, they have been growing on me, and in my garden by the looks!

I sort of got a bit e-bay crazy last month! found the bike Donna mentioned, 'the-black-one' going for a song with a dead engine. BEutiful, Beutiful original little bike, but with no compression.

I bought it becouse it was SO 'good' with the idea that until the 'project' was done, we could slot the engine from the heap or from the bike she's doing in it, 'just' to give her a run-about. But its so nice she doesn't want to ride it! I had the thought though It would make a great tool for following newbies about on, if I ever go back to instructing, but then after a bit more pondering, decided I couldn't bring myself to bash it about. So I've 'moth-balled' it, to tackle considerately in my own time. Probably needs just a head-gasket. But mean-while it goves us something better than a haynes manual to look at to see how things should be!

Then I found another! Again, going very cheap, and with no bids on, becouse it was in the back of beyond! Hadn't got a bid in the last five minutes, so I thought "what the heck' and placed one. Thinking 'May be useful for Spares'..... got down there, there were TWO bikes for the price of one! One he showed me was a runner, other was 'dead'. Got it home, fiddled a bit, fired up!

Then another popped up locally! Taxed, Tested, Siezed! So I thought that might make a fast fix. And I'm doing that one, while Dona does hers. But this one IS being done on a fixed budget. And I SHOULD have enough 'bits' to make a few good bikes out of this lot, and with a bit of luck, MIGHT even be able to keep one for myself, to trundle behind newbies on, save expensive tyres on the 750!

And its a brilliant bike for that job. Insurance is effectively free as a second bike & Tax negligible. Fuel is near 100mpg, and tyres cheap and long-lasting. Yet it is a comfy bike to ride, not so scrunched as many 125's, and 'enough' performance to be useful, especially if the only use is keeping newbies on chitty little chineese school bikes in raidio range!

If you are following with the idea of inspiring your rebuild, though, do take heed of the costs. Doing on properly is NOT a cheap job. But, if it would get you started, make me an offer on the 'Spare' frame I bought to try and salvage 'the-heap'. With the one that I got with the dead engine, I think I now have one more frame than I have motors worth putting in them.

Meanwhile we'll see, what happens, with the 'others'. This Show & Tell is about Donna's bike!

stinkwheel wrote:
Errr. Embarassed
There are certain elements of that motorcycle that look distressingly familiar to me.
The "battery box" is one. As are the bits of inner tube for the seat to rest on.
The CM125 2-1 carb manifold being another. Does it have a single CB125TDC carb attached?
Is the fuel tank sediment bowl made of mostly plastic metal?
Last time I saw my CB125TDC, it was being used as a prop in a B-movie some of my mates were making.
It got thrown off a cliff with a dummy attached twice, "blown up" several times with stage maroons and was then chucked in a skip somewhere near Hawick.

Your guess is as good as mine. Came from a chap in Brum though, and the log-book is an old style one, so the bike hasn't been on the road for over ten years! and no, it didn't have a single TDC slide carb on it. It had some manky VV abortion on it, and the sediment bowl wasn't metal-set!
Movie sounds interesting, was it ever released?
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

One demolished Honda Super-Dream! all in a days work, for an ardent Biker-Chick, hugh!

So, day two..... it looked like this:-

http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strip%20Down/imag0697.jpg

Time to strip the Suspension Linkage & remove all the old bushes, so the frame could be sent for Sand-Blasting, after having a go at it with a wire brush on the drill!

http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strip%20Down/imag0713.jpg

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http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Suspension/imag0715.jpg

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http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strip%20Down/imag0718.jpg

http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Strip%20Down/imag0719.jpg

And THEN having a go at rust removal by Electrolysis, inspired by a blog of another CB125 Restoration where he did it to a horn. I had slightly bigger ideas.... I tried doing the whole frame!


Tackling a tank.

http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/plastics%20and%20tank/imax0830.jpg

http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/plastics%20and%20tank/imax0827.jpg
The Heap`s Tank

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Ok i know im a woman but i still know a bike only has 1 tank,TEF im not doing your projects too

And look i havent even tacked mine yet, MEN.....

http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/plastics%20and%20tank/imax0831.jpg
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PostPosted: 17:03 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
chris-red wrote:
Nice to see like a typical woman you changed outfits halfway through Laughing

Wink Jup, she does that. I have to watch out. she has a tendancy to nick my sweat shirts too! sometimes while I'm still wearing them! I get all exited......... turns out all she wants to do is stick a load of washing on!

chris-red wrote:
Are you on CBT? I could be wrong but I believe the Cb125 tdc is illegal for learners to use as it has too much power. Not that you have an icicle's chance in hell of being caught.


He-He... yes she is on CBT, but hopefully not for long.

As for 'power-restrictions'; well goes like this. ALL CB125TD-# 'Super-Dreams' are Learner-Legal 12bhp compient. Honda introduced the model about 18months ahead of the 125 Learner-Laws specifically to meet them.

So answering your question, NO, it doesn't have too much power to be L-L.

But it COULD have had... he-he.....

Wording of the learner laws when they were introduced gave 'restriction-exemption' to bikes built BEFORE introduction of the law, circa some month in 1983. They figured that there wouldn't be MANY bikes out there that made more than 12bhp, and not much more ANYWAY, & if learners had to ALL buy brand new bikes to be legal, there'd be uproar.

In my 'Stable' I have an original, 1977, first of the mono-shock, air-cooled Yamaha DT125MX's.

Motor as stock delivers about 16bhp, and as long as I dont bore it out, I can tune the thing as wildly as I like, 20bhp is very attainable on them motors if you dont mind plugs oiling up and or risking the odd 'nip-up'.... and it is PERFECTLY legal to be ridden on a provisional licence with CBT and L-Plates! (I dont, I have to restore it properly yet, and I have a full licence anyway, but its nice to know SOME-ONE could!)



I believe they may have been over turned when the new learner limit was introduced (14.6bhp)

I think this is a flat restriction regardless of age, may be wrong mind.
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

seeing as you have so many bikes there is there a half decent frame possibly maybe for purchase... sandblasting a 26year old frame as it was was a bad idea after it was left in a garden for probably 20 of them years lol
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

nightshaddow wrote:
seeing as you have so many bikes there is there a half decent frame possibly maybe for purchase... sandblasting a 26year old frame as it was was a bad idea after it was left in a garden for probably 20 of them years lol


yes he has got a spare frame,but no you cant till mines back from the sand-blasters just in case i maybe need it,

you scared me Shocked

but as soon as its back and alls well im sure we could help a fellow biker out
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

would very much appreciate it, and i wouldent worry to much as i said i think the thing was in a garden unprotected for around 20 years, some bits of the frame broke off while i was stripping it down,

i have alot of knowlage with these bikes i have owned 3 up to now so any info or problems if you need anything just shout Thumbs Up

and good luck with pup Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

nightshaddow wrote:
would very much appreciate it, and i wouldent worry to much as i said i think the thing was in a garden unprotected for around 20 years, some bits of the frame broke off while i was stripping it down,

i have alot of knowlage with these bikes i have owned 3 up to now so any info or problems if you need anything just shout Thumbs Up

and good luck with pup Very Happy


Cheers Matey, go for it, tell us all you can. All grist to the mill!

- Rear suspension Linkage Bushes?
- Ecconomical fork-Rechroming?

Think those two are the biggies at the mo.... bit ambitiouse, but anythings worth a try!

Doing some head-scratching on the fork-rebuild though. Would like to 'firm' up the ride a bit. They all seem a bit soggy on the front end, though might be becouse they're all knackered!

Fork Oil:- Alternative volumes & grades?
Standard is ATF, WTF is that the equivelence of vs upty weight fork oil? Ever tried an alternative?

Fork Springs:- ever tried shimming them? If so by how much?

Wheel-Bearings! Got them out for her EVENTUALLY! But BOY was it a faff. spacer in the middle dont seem to want to move any which way, to let you beat them.

Think I just lucked in, but is there a trick, or 'something' I'm missing, like doing them from the disk or sproket side first, and aligining the spacer to something?

Main-stands:- All seem to wobble. Any ideas? Cures? Comments?

Gear-Levers:- Like Main-stands!

Clocks:- Condensation. Any Tips? Know anything about the needles just 'dropping off' fault that they are supposed to be notoriouse for? Is there a fix? (thinking super-glue when I send her 'in' with a tube of silicon!)

The bludy seat hinge! They have that little bit of bowden cable to stop them tipping back so far they bend the side panels.

Leave it clipped you have to hold it up the whole while as you put battery in or out. Take it off, side panels flex stress stud and they nearly ALL seem to break on the left hand side! Any comments or Cures?

Fuel Taps:- She's been prepping tanks today. She'll probably put up some pics later. (I know she has already, and I'm NOT biting about the fact I had her doing three... she KNOWS the reason!)

One of the tanks had completely sludged up tap, and something rattling around inside. But removing it, it disintegrated in my mitt, leaving the plastic tube up the exit pipe. And when we got that out, the mesh bit on the end had disintegrated.

Other one came out fine, but had a rattle. Pretty sure that came off her bike, and bloke we got it off said he'd 'replaced' the tap.

Could the rattle be something off the end of the tap? Is it a 'known' problem? Is there a cure? Both of us have been shaking our heads AND petrol tanks trying to get whatever is in ther to fall out the filler hole, without joy!

I'll PM you about the frame, when she's got her's back from the blasters. She HAD been all for me e-baying off the 'un-needed' bits off 'the heap' until you mentioned that one!
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 11 Jun 2010    Post subject: Staarting to see something coming together Reply with quote

Frame has gone for blasting. But a big bag of bits has turned up from Dave Silver Spares. More parcels from other people off e-bay.
So, while I wait for the frame to come back, time to have a crack at reconditioning the brakes.
http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0723.jpg
Pulling out the old pistons with a pair of mole grips. This kills them.
http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0724.jpg
But I had brand new ones to replace them with.
http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0753.jpg
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Seals removed 'Carefuly' by b/f with 'Something-Pointy' (See I'm getting to grips with the technical terminology of mechanics!)
http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0728.jpg
I HATE washing up! Thought this mechanics lark would be like playing mechano, but b/f has me at the kitchen sink CLEANING stuff, more than I'm am twiddling spanners!
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Pointy Things, Tooth-Brushes, drill bits; b/f kept sending me back to scrape & scrub and make these brake bits METICULOUSELY clean. He said that any 'crud' left in the internals of the brake bits could block the ports and valves and stuff and stop the brake working, so I guess he has a point about this cleaning m'larky!
http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0733.jpg
So If I have to be chained to the kitchen sink, I'll get HIM doing drilling!
Actually, THIS was the reason that this brake didn't work. Screw wouldn't come out of the brake fluid filler, so it had never been filled! B/F VERY CAREFULLY drilled it out.
http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0736.jpg
So carefully that he was left with just the rim of the head on the drill bit, and most of the shaft of the screw still in the hole. GOD he's GOOD..... or so HE says anyway!
http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0738.jpg
Cap lifed off the stubb of screw, the end could be gripped with the trusty mole-grips. B/F bought this pair at Machine Mart when he got me my socket set. They were expensive. I over-looked that fact, because he was buying me toys.... sorry, TOOLS... and he has been raving about how fantastic they are ever since! Have to admit though, they DID do the trick here!
http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0737.jpg
HA! Got HIM with his hands in soapy water! All that stale pee coloured stuff is aparently solidified brake fluid. It ALL had to be scraped and scrubbed out.
THEN the master cylinder piston and seals can be removed. Dont ask. I watched. and I STILL dont understand it. Well I do. Its all held in with a little clip. a RUSTY little clip. Burried a long way down a hole. And it takes MUCH swearing, trying every single pair of funny pliers in the b/f's big tool box, and eventually comes out with the patented 'pointy-thing'!
http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0744.jpg
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After putting the blunt end of a drill in the port in the filler reservoir to hold the piston back.
http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0747.jpg
DONT pull the drill out though, unless you have your thumb over the cylinder to stop the piston flying out..... as shown!
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0749.jpg
anyway, THATS whats inside the master cylinder, the old bits above, the nice new ones below.
http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0750.jpg
But before they can go in, its BACK to the kitchen sink.... a-gain!
http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0755.jpg
But once thoroughly cleaned and dried in an oven to make sure there is no crud and no water of ANYTHING left in the castings.... castings.... see I'm really getting the lingo here, they'd've bin 'bits' to me last week!
http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes//imag0757.jpg
They can be masked up for painting, so they look good as well as work good.
http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0758.jpg
all the holes and stuff where bits move or bolt have to be covered up so paint dont get in there and gumm up the workings.
http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0759.jpg
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Thats the Caliper masked. The Master Cylinder was done the same way.
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0788.jpg
The Caliper was painted in matt heat-proof paint, becouse they can get hot, aparently, and it was cured after spraying in the oven. But SOME-ONE forgot to take 'photo's, as they were too busy messing with another motorbike!

Once painted and cured, masking removed, and the casting YE A BLUDY GAIN, washed and thoroughly dried, (To make sure theres no dust or paint residues or ANYTHING inside... its time to try and put it to gether again.
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0791.jpg
Main seals go in first, in the lower groove. They are the thicker ones, and are square in section. Takes a bit of 'wiggling' but they do go in. I have an advantage here with little lady's fingers! Tip, wipe them with brake fluid first to lubricate them.
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0794.jpg
'Wiper' seals go in next, in the upper groove. These are the thinner rings and have a groove in the face. BOTH rings have to go in neatly without being twisted or kinked or anything.
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0795.jpg
Once the seals are in place and seated comfortably, then the pistons can be pushed in. Again they go in a lot easier if you dip the end in brake fluid to lube them first. You DO have to be careful to get them in square and not dislonge a seal as you push them in though. Case of being firm but fair! They will take a bit of pressure to go in, you cant tickle them, but get ham-fisted and you'll get them jammed and possibly pinch one of the new seals.
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0796.jpg
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But once they are 'in' they should go all the way fairly easily.
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0800.jpg
Next the brake pads anti-rattle clip can be fitted.Given some coppa-slip to stop it squeeking ir rusting, and after coppa-slipping tha back of the brake pads they can be fitted too.
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0802.jpg
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Next come the pad-pins, which can again be coppa-slipped before pushing through the pads. These often rust in the holes in the caliper and the pads stopping the brake work properly & making changing the pads a pain. A we were reconditioning the caliper we used brand new pad pins, & my B/F had me 'ream' the holes for them in the caliper out with a drill before we started re-assembling it.
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0806.jpg
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0808.jpg
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Next job is to re-assemble the float-pins. Note that the pads have been wedged part with a bit of card-board to stop them waggl;ing about until the caliper if fitted, and the hole for the brake pipe mashed off to stop crud getting in before its all put fully back together.
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0815.jpg
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0816.jpg
The float pins are a pain. B/F said there was a 'trick' to it, and then cocked it up! Theres two rubber grommits and a sleeve. Sleeve goes through the caliper body, rubber grommet goes on either end, clipping into a groove on the end of the sleeve, and another in the caliper body!
The 'Trick' I think he eventually discovered is you put ONE gromet into the caliper body, then push the sleeve through from the other side, and push it FURTHER than the gromet, so you have an empty hole to put the other grommet into. THEN you can push the sleeve back and fiddle the grommets into the grooves on either end of the sleeve.
Its not easy. Especially if everything is all slippery with coppa-slip, because you dont want it rusting or siezing!
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0817.jpg
Gromet on the OTHER pin just clips over the lip of the hole on the caliper mount. Dead easy, BUT as B/F pointed out, DONT use TOO much coppa-slip of it'll all squrt out when you push the pin in, and or stop the pin floating properly.
In fact, you ought to be sparing with the coppa-slip in MOST places, as you dont want any getting on the brake pads or anything!
Finally, and I didn't get pictures of it, a new bleed nipple and nipple cover can be fitted, and the pad retaining plate screwed down over the pad-pins to hold them in place.
And EVERYTHING tightened up to the torque specifications in the Haynes manual.
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/Brakes/imag0814.jpg
OH.... Tip: WHEN you paint the caliper body, if you want it to look REALLY nice when its all 'done'...... dont forget to paint the pad retaining plate!
Might get round to doing the Master Cylinder next, but first, more painting.
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/painting%20bits/imag0830.jpg
oh and i finally managed to strip my own tank back to metal..and its just had its first coat of primer
http://i1177.photobucket.com/albums/x349/snowtigeress/plastics%20and%20tank/imag0855.jpg
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PostPosted: 01:07 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cringed at the amount of copper grease, only need a thin smear.
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PostPosted: 01:22 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

TUG wrote:
I cringed at the amount of copper grease, only need a thin smear.


Razz LOL! I know!

If it makes you feel any better though, I scraped it of to LEAVE just a thin smear after the photo-was took. Photo merely shows the application, but if you dont have much coppa slip on the lolly stick, you just get a pic which makes people ask, "Whys he stroking a brake pad with a lolli-pop stick?'
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PostPosted: 02:18 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Just thought; Thats not YOUR tank, dear, thats the 'spare' tank I bought!

But you can have it..... I'll swap you for the one that came off your bike....... that's still full of petrol!

And you prepped 3 of them, so you could to find the one in the best shape to go on your bike!!!

STOP blaming ME for finding you work! You'll start accusing me of DELIBERATELY getting cloths dirty next!

Anyway, to add a little to what Donnas put; FIRST of all, yes, my frekled fingers are in a lot of the shots on the brakes, becouse, well, this is a safety critical system, & I've done more than a few in my time. Six months ago, Donna needed help to tension her own chain! And we DO NOT want this bit of the job cocked up!

BUT she has done a LOT more than look over my shoulder while I did all the work. I did one piston & seals, she did the other, and she did almost ALL the component cleaning, I just gave them an inspection and final rinse to be sure of them.

This girl REALLY is getting ger hands dirty on this project, I can tell you!

MOLE-GRIPS!

Horendouse tool! A device used by most as a universal spanner to round of fastener heads and putgouge marks in critical surfaces. I HATE the things for how badly most get used. Not helped by the fact that so many of them slip of thier own accord becouse they are made of chitty monkey-metal, coming as part of a 1001 piece tool-kit.

BUT, GOOD Mole-Grips, PROPERLY used are an INVALUABLE addition to the arsenal or tools.

That pair, Clarke-Pro from Machine mart, I got last week, to replace the pair I discovered hidden in the bottom of my tool box, brutalised by one of those people who ask questions like,

"Do you have anything to get the big-nut of the handle-bars of mi BMX?"

Who you dont really want to let loose in your tool box, but who ask you while you are balencing a Range-Rover exhaust mid-box or something on your head, while wrestling with the hanging rubbers, and WONT take "FUCK OFF" for an answer!

So you say, '"Yeah, look in the tool-box" expecting them to borrow a 'Spanner'..... more fool ME, I guess!

But back to the mole-grips. If you MUST have a pair, get GOOD ones, and use them properly. Like on stuff that DONT have a nicely formed head to take a spanner, socket, or drive 'bit', and which doesn't matter if it gets chewed up!

I wont mention 'patent pokie-tool'! I cannot BELIEVE that bloody circlip defied half a dozen pair of circlip pliers, only to come out with the tip of an electrical test probe!

And YES, I let go of the drill bit holding the master cylinder piston back, before I got my thumb over the end! I have banana-fingers! Thats MY excuse & I'm sticking to it!

Restoring the Levers and switches; pictures are a bit ad-hoc, so to explain:

Parts were cleaned. Lightly sanded and then primered. Primer was force cured by hanging infront of the oven. THEN they were sprayed black.

At this point the lettering was cleaned out with another patent pokie thing, and a little carefully applied paint stripper.

Then washed, and dried infront of the oven again, before the letter detailing was picked out on Flourescent Orange.

For Note; airfix modelers paint, available at any good model or art & craft shop: Humbrol Enamel, Gloss 209

Its a VERY close match to the original lettering colour.

Paint is a bit 'thick', and the pigment tends to sink to the bottom of the pot. TIP dont shake or stir the tin. Get a lemonade bottle cap, then using a cocktail stick, gloop a thick bit of pigment out of the tin into the cap, use the paint-brush to decant the thinners from the top of the tin nto the cap and mix with stick to a thick-ish consistency thats pigment ritch, before applying to part, with brush.

This DOESN'T have to be too neatly done, but of the paints mixed right it should flow into the recesses of the lettering fairly well.

Reason for mixing it ritch is to get the pigment to settle in the letters. Use it as it comes from the tin, & it will spread and only leave a little colour & you'll be repeating coats from here to next christmas!

Allow to cure, for a couple of hours, then you can polish excess paint from around the letters with T-Cut or solvol, LIGHTLY, then wash in warm soapy water to remove any residues of polish, and leave the lettering bright in the recesses.

The whole part can then be sprayed with laquer to hold & protect & make the part all nice & shiney! (Donna has yet to complete that last stage)

For concourse anoraks, YES, this IS an element of 'over', and 'innacurate' restoration; original part only had one coat of 'gun-metal' colour paint, not black straight on the metal, and no laquer over the lettering.

And while on the subject of paint, its the 'finishing touch' to restoring a part, NOT the restoration itself!

As the pics of the caliper rebuild show, 90% of the job is in the cleaningto make a part fit to take new seals, bearings, pistons or what-ever.

That done, you COULD simply put the part back together and bolt it back on, would work great, but not look like it had had much attension.

Chucking a bit of paint at it then, while you have it in that state can REALLY make the difference and make it LOOK like the jobs been done.

If you just take a part off and paint it though, it wont. Its the effort of getting the thing cleaned to take the paint that makes it look good.

If you dont take the part apart to paint it though, you will normally not be able to get it clean enough to take paint, or you'll be making life hard for yourself masking stuff off so bits that you dont want painted dont get coloured, OR you'll end up with paint on bits were its not helpful, and either way, it probably wont end up looking that great!

Back to The Accounts. Two cans of primer, one of black, have been added to the bill at a cost of £5.99 each. The pot of Humbrol 209, cost £1.45, and has enough paint in it to probably do the switches on a dozen bikes... cheap finishing touch!
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SnowTigeress
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PostPosted: 03:18 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thats not YOUR tank, dear, thats the 'spare' tank I brought


It is my tank as i stole it, so you cant give it to me once its been stolen Razz

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STOP blaming ME for finding you work! You'll start accusing me of DELIBERATELY getting cloths dirty next!


You are my main part of work,washing cleaning,filling and emptying the dishwasher,and then accuse me of having an affair with the appliances!!!! Rolling Eyes

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This girl REALLY is getting ger hands dirty on this project, I can tell you!


you cant keep me out of the dirty im 1 dirty girl Twisted Evil

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MOLE-GRIPS!


Knows what to get you for x-mas Wink

oh and by the way havent you got a rangey to fix get you bottom into gear matey and fix it or ill have a go Twisted Evil Very Happy

talking of range rovers any1 need any spares hes got loads of rubbish in his garden:P Razz
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Teflon-Mike
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

snowtigeress wrote:
talking of range rovers any1 need any spares hes got loads of rubbish in his garden:P Razz


Your Learning Dear, Your LEARNING! [sits back, and smiles apreciatively]

A woman who apreciates the value of 'Do-Ferz' (as in, diesel-Do-Ferz another job)...... Most would have just called it 'Scrap'! SOME would have just chucked it away, without even a word!

Knew there was something different in this one. Does the washing.... hides it, so I STILL cant find anything to wear, but what the heck! Makes coffee... Drinks pints.... fixes motorbikes. Dont moan about holidays, babies, DIY, shelves, or insist on trips to IKEA 'just' to see what they have. Doesn't have a million pairs of shoes she never wears, or ask silly questions like, 'which looks better, the Mauve or the Lilac?', or demand 'duty' visits to annoying reletives.

Might just have to hang on to her... she shows pottential! Sexy too!

Yes dear! Right away Dear! I'll get moving..... I just need to wait for the paint to dry on the steering guard & the new exhaust to 'settle' before I clamp it up.....

Would you like me to show you how head-race bearings fit?
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nightshaddow
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just love this thread not just a good thread but an epic sitcom at the same time Thumbs Up

[quote]Fork Oil:- Alternative volumes & grades?
Standard is ATF, WTF is that the equivelence of vs upty weight fork oil? Ever tried an alternative?[quote]

i use this stuff

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Freaky_1
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quickly becoming a favorite thread!

Looks like you're fitting some fun in there............ as i should be!

Enjoy!
Frank
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Grimnir
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 12 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freaky_1 wrote:
Quickly becoming a favorite thread!


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need more pics!
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