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PostPosted: 15:31 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: New bike test in october... Reply with quote
Had a chat with a bike instructor i know... he was telling me they are brining in another change in the bike test.

it'll still be mod1 and mod2, but there's an extra bit in mod2 where the rider is instructed to follow the road signs to a specific location, without any input from the examiner...
He said it's pointless and will end up having lots of riders getting lost.

Anyone heard of this or is he talking pish?

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PostPosted: 16:09 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Looks like it'll be for all types of test, they call it "independent Driving"

https://www.dsa.gov.uk/News.asp?id=SXE42A-A7835A58

I think it's a good thing and gives you more preparation for the "real" world.
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oh sweet Jesus don't.... Was going through Central London yesterday which is probably where I will do my test and to buggery with finding my way anywhere there without a map or instructions....
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: Re: New bike test in october... Reply with quote
Mr Dunkable wrote:
Had a chat with a bike instructor i know... he was telling me they are brining in another change in the bike test.

it'll still be mod1 and mod2, but there's an extra bit in mod2 where the rider is instructed to follow the road signs to a specific location, without any input from the examiner...
He said it's pointless and will end up having lots of riders getting lost.

Anyone heard of this or is he talking pish?

Dunc


Yup this is what i was told by my car instructor
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
They better give you an A to Z before the begining of the test.
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Its not a long part of the test, and just requires you to follow sign posts. Cant be that hard if you know the area?
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
I actually had to do this on my test Neutral


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TBH. It's not hard reading signs but some places are really badly posted.



London being one of them Neutral
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
From a bike instructor I was speaking to the CBT is due to be imposed on NI in October as well as this road sign malarky... glad Im doing mine over the summer.
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Seems a bit pointless to me. Surely you're learning to DRIVE rather than navigate. Hence the term DRIVING test. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 19 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Good job im doing mine in July Wink
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PostPosted: 05:10 - 20 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Big_Ham wrote:
Seems a bit pointless to me. Surely you're learning to DRIVE rather than navigate. Hence the term DRIVING test. Rolling Eyes


TBH there are quite a few numpties who don't know how to read signs. Or look for them and turn at the last second. This should hopefully sort out the shit ones Wink


It's not like it's asking much.
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PostPosted: 05:52 - 20 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Big_Ham wrote:
Seems a bit pointless to me. Surely you're learning to DRIVE rather than navigate. Hence the term DRIVING test. Rolling Eyes


Yeah but surely knowing how to get somewhere is part of driving?

Personally I think some of the worst examples of driving I've seen are by people who don't have a clue where they are going.
I would say sounds like a good thing, but then again I've got my car and bike licences so I don't need to do it! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 05:59 - 20 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Deaks650 wrote:
Big_Ham wrote:
Seems a bit pointless to me. Surely you're learning to DRIVE rather than navigate. Hence the term DRIVING test. Rolling Eyes


Yeah but surely knowing how to get somewhere is part of driving?

Personally I think some of the worst examples of driving I've seen are by people who don't have a clue where they are going.
I would say sounds like a good thing, but then again I've got my car and bike licences so I don't need to do it! Very Happy


Most people don't know where they are going when they're going somewhere new.

What separates the good from the bad is whether or not they're looking at the signs properly.


And if the signs actually help Laughing
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PostPosted: 06:54 - 20 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
m0l0t0v wrote:


Most people don't know where they are going when they're going somewhere new.


Thats fine but what pisses me off are the people who havent planned how to get to somewhere new, especially when theyre on the motorway and stop and use an emergency phone to ask for directions!

m0l0t0v wrote:

What separates the good from the bad is whether or not they're looking at the signs properly.


I would say what separates the good and bad is something that applies to nearly everything you do while riding /driving, planning. That includes your journeys as a whole and pretty much everything you do during the journey.

m0l0t0v wrote:

And if the signs actually help Laughing


Agreed. Sometimes you think 'what was going through the head of these town/council planners!'
Or what I find worse, no signs at all! First time going to cadwell I was convinced the organisers didnt actually want anyone to find the track. Im used to brands which is signposted from the m25 all the way there.
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 20 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Deaks650 wrote:

Thats fine but what pisses me off are the people who havent planned how to get to somewhere new, especially when theyre on the motorway and stop and use an emergency phone to ask for directions!


Can't say I've ever seen or even heard that happening! Shocked Till now obviously... Planning obviously helps and looking up your route.

What I really fucking hate is people who use sat navs likes they're law and order. Even my friend followed the sat nav and what it said. The place we were going to, he'd been about 5 times before and knew how to get there. He listened to the sat nav and we went the wrong way on the motorway. Once we pulled over I gave him a massive bitch slap and told him to wake the fuck up before he kills someone. Rolling Eyes


Deaks650 wrote:

I would say what separates the good and bad is something that applies to nearly everything you do while riding /driving, planning. That includes your journeys as a whole and pretty much everything you do during the journey.


True. Even a tiny bit of planning helps.


Deaks650 wrote:

Agreed. Sometimes you think 'what was going through the head of these town/council planners!'
Or what I find worse, no signs at all! First time going to cadwell I was convinced the organisers didnt actually want anyone to find the track. Im used to brands which is signposted from the m25 all the way there.


Oh god tell me about it.


I fucking hate London for it. I planned a route and it said to follow these signs etc. I had to go through London unfortunately (I was on the bike). Luckily it was late at night so no real traffic. But some signs just didn't make sense. I actually came across one that said the same thing to both directions (left or right, no straight ahead) It wasn't even a junction. It either turned left or right so no waiting. I took a gamble and took right and was luckily right. But ffs! Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 20 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
The signs thing is my issue. London is atrocious with road signs. I am sure other city's have bad spots too but I have always felt the further into London you go the worse it is signposted.
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 20 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Glad I've passed my car and bike test Laughing I'd get lost in an instant. I can just about get to the local coast (15 - 20 miles away) following signs but I always end up the wrong lanes and stuff.
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 20 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Can't see myself having a problem with this but I want to get my test out of the way before I go back to uni in september anyway. If you know the area pretty well you really shouldn't have a problem...
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 20 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
So they are telling you to drive without instructions for 10 minutes, what is the difference for retaining instructions for 10 minutes? What stupidness, you still have to follow the signs correctly. So, learners aren't currently looking at direction signs at the moment and they've suddenly decided to teach them that aspect of navigation? Shouldn't they just of read the Highway Code?

What a load of rubbish.
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Yeah, this was on Yahoos homepage news a few weeks back.
My test is going to be in Garrets Green (never been there in my life) so I'm planning on getting my test booked in well before then!
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 21 Jun 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
I haven't heard about learners having to follow signs for part of their test but I did hear that the DVLA would be looking at changing the bike tests again and were after some input. Cant remember where though.

This is pretty much it
https://www.access-legal.co.uk/legal-news/motorbike-test-to-be-reviewed-following-spate-of-accidents-lu-2305.htm
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 21 Jun 2010    Post subject: Re: New bike test in october... Reply with quote
Mr Dunkable wrote:
it'll still be mod1 and mod2, but there's an extra bit in mod2 where the rider is instructed to follow the road signs to a specific location, without any input from the examiner...
He said it's pointless and will end up having lots of riders getting lost.


It's being brought into the Class B as well, I am not looking forward to it.
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