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Furious D
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: an NSR? Reply with quote

hey guys,
Im looking to buy myself a bike for the first time next year. Im getting a new occupation in the army and will have loadsa cash by my 17th birthday so i can now afford my dreams, a motorbike. the only thing is i dont know which one to get. i am totally obsessed by them and will ride a new one at any chance i get, which isnt very often seems that i dont hav a provisional or a cbt and can only ride one when a friend brings one over where i have a long drive, (you can get about 50 on a CB125) i Started looking at the RS125 but after reading the reviews i wasnt soo keen because of the self exploding engines and the high prices not to mension the difficulty in retrieving parts. therefore i turned to the NSR which i dismissed before because the RS was suposivly faster, i now think the NSR is the better bike but only on reviews i havent got a riders opinion. could you help me out? cheers Question
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Hex
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely loads on this site mate, lots have asked the same question in the past and many more will no doubt.

Basically the advice goes:

- Don't buy new!
- There is very little in the top speeds of the race type 125's so don't worry yourself about that.
- Don't get an imported NSR as you'll find de-restricting them a nightmare.
- Ensure you use quality 2 stroke oil.
- Get the bike do your test then get a bigger, even more fun bike.

Welcome to the BCF, treat it well and it will do the same for you.

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Furious D
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanx, i would of been pretty lost without this, ive never owned a bike nor has anyone in my family so i have no1 i would trust at such things as my friends are hardly what i would i woul call experienced riders.
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Hex
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same situation I found myself in mate, I wanted a bike but had no friends with any and my family didn't know anything about them (only I wasn't 17, I'm a bit older).

I found this site and I'm please to say the people here are more than helpful (if not sarcastic sometimes Wink ).

Two years on I now have passed my test and own a CBR600, understand a lot more about bikes and have made some good friends.

Theres a few people from up your neck of the woods as well (I actually come from Hartlepool but live in Worcester due to work etc.), so you may even be able to meet up with a few locals.

As I said if you search about you'll see a number of posts on what 125 to buy, how to look after bikes and basic maintenance and of course the obligatory which is better nsr v rs thread etc.
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Im 17, and had to choose between the mito, rs or nsr: there is very little difference in top speeds and anybody claiming their mates mate has a 130mph mito or wotever is talking out their backside! id go 4 the honda, its more reliable and if you buy summat like a yr 2000 one you shouldnt loose too much money on it.

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Scotty
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gav do you do any work or what?

Generally between the oldest NSR's 1988 till about 1998 ish
there is very little price difference.

And generally it doesnt matter bcause some older bikes like when i first brought mine, where in better condition than newer bikes around 1996.

in saying that, it isn't now its had me destroying it, but i'm bringing it back to a half decent bike again Very Happy
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Hex
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotty wrote:
Gav do you do any work or what?


Not in the mood to do any today mate. Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, I've got an NSR and just wondering if mine is an import. The speedos in km, which is the most obvious sign, so I'm guessing it is. What type of trouble do you usually get when trying to de-restrict an import?
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Scotty
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Hex"]
Scotty wrote:

Not in the mood to do any today mate. Laughing


Me too!

My NSR is an import, Although its the F model.
They dont seem to have any restrictors in. So mine would be full power.
I have got 152 khm out of it though. which is near enough 95mph.

Easyiest test to find out if the bike is restricted is its top speed, or a 0 - 60mph, or in your case 0 - 100kph and count roughly how long it takes to get there.

So imports have dodgy CDI's
Some have standard UK restrictions.
Some have different sized sprokets.

Others have carb restrictions.

its a shot in the dark knowing what you have.
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always counted mine as restricted pretty badly as sometimes I struggle against bastard cars at the lights. Or, a lot of the time it hovers over certain revs as you try and go faster.
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Scotty
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

KiddoYouth wrote:
a lot of the time it hovers over certain revs as you try and go faster.


Me spies a first impression of either a power valve failure or CDI restriction.
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take it to a Dyno (£15) or down the drag-strip. Both should help you see if it's restricted Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a 2001 NSR - no regrets here.

Haven't passed my test yet so its fully restricted - I'm 6ft3 and not the most aerodynamic person in the world, but I can still get 70 out of it. According to nsr125.com a derestricted nsr125 will do 100-110mph. I'll check that, one day.

The only gripe I have with it, is that the gearbox is a bit clunky betwen 1st and 2nd gear. But it might just be grumbling under the weight of my fat arse. Mr. Green
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Furious D
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers, i was thinking of the 2001 black and grey colours becaus its pretty new so i figure that nothing much can of gone wrong with it and i like those colours the best. after you pass your test can you leagally de-restrict your bike? or should i jus de-restrict it when i feel i have goten to grips woth riding it?
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Hex
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Furious D wrote:
after you pass your test can you leagally de-restrict your bike?


Yes.

Furious D wrote:
or should i jus de-restrict it when i feel i have goten to grips woth riding it?


After about a day or two of ownership yes. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine was derestricted when I bought it.

Although at the moment it doesn't really feel like it :S.
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Scotty"]
Hex wrote:
Scotty wrote:

Not in the mood to do any today mate. Laughing


Me too!

My NSR is an import, Although its the F model.
They dont seem to have any restrictors in. So mine would be full power.
I have got 152 khm out of it though. which is near enough 95mph.

Easyiest test to find out if the bike is restricted is its top speed, or a 0 - 60mph, or in your case 0 - 100kph and count roughly how long it takes to get there.

So imports have dodgy CDI's
Some have standard UK restrictions.
Some have different sized sprokets.

Others have carb restrictions.

its a shot in the dark knowing what you have.


For anyone who needs the info, an import de-restriction guide is available on the site in my signature.

Cheers
Lee

BTW the imports are not that bad to de-restrict, and now that its all documented it should be alot easier. I managed to de-restrict my '01 french import without probs.
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

GFK wrote:
The only gripe I have with it, is that the gearbox is a bit clunky betwen 1st and 2nd gear. But it might just be grumbling under the weight of my fat arse. Mr. Green


I have noticed that recently on my restricted NSR, Im 6'4 and skinny as a latt so im guessing its not your figure mate Smile

Ive gone 2000 miles (just clocked up yesterday on way to work) how many you done GFK? I only bought mine new at the end of last year, it had done about a mile and a half before i bought it.

Changing up from 1st to 2nd seems smooth but changing down seems to clunk a bit.

Im thinking I may need to top up my oil as its not showing in the window but surely when it went in for its service the other week this guy should have picked up on that if it was low.



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PostPosted: 17:59 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the chain is loose then it will make gear changes noisy.
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

Highlander_PJ wrote:
Changing up from 1st to 2nd seems smooth but changing down seems to clunk a bit.

Same with mine.

Had friends say "Why does your bike clunk when you change down?".

Methinks its just a normal NSR thing Smile.
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

McJamweasel wrote:
If the chain is loose then it will make gear changes noisy.


That is also the case aswell. Is there any easy way to set the chain tension on an NSR?

I just bought a paddock stand the other week so that should make it easier than using a car jack on the rear suspention.

I dont know how to accuratly set the tension, and the guy that did the service obviously set it to slack, there is quite alot of play.


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PostPosted: 18:38 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

although i have never opened up a bike before but i think i would be pretty confident doing so although i might not be able to get it back together again. in this case should i attemp to de-restrict it myself or seek outside help? if so who from?
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

although i have never opened up a bike before but i think i would be pretty confident doing so although i might not be able to get it back together again. in this case should i attemp to de-restrict it myself or seek outside help? if so who from?
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 29 Oct 2003    Post subject: Reply with quote

i used to get the clunky noise, then when i had my 5000 mile service it seemed fone there after, the mechanic said he had the piston out but most probably chain tension, ive covered 7531 miles since i bought the bike at the start of april.
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