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tom rg 125 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Karma :

what bike do you guy think is best ither a suzuki rg 125 gamma or a yamaha tzr125?? Very Happy

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Best in what respect?

They are both fairly similar bikes... in the end most cheap 125 sports bikes are just that... cheap 125 Smile

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tom rg 125 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Karma :

i mean as in performace like top speed and handerling and stuff like that

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

Thats like saying
"Whats the difference between a pen made by yamaha, and a pen made by suzuki?"
Well they both write, possibly in different colours but maybe not and they both the size and shape of a pen.

They're about as close as you can get without being the same make.

both alloy beam framed 2-stroke 125's with full fairing.
When referring to the KTM RC8:

Scotty · Scooter Boi Joined: 31 Jul 2002 Karma :

Aye tis true there marjay.
Before buying a 125 i done a fair amount of research before coming to the conclusion of buying the NSR.
I found very little differences in top speed, accleration.
And it seemed all reviews where biast to which bike the owner had...

I ended up opting for an NSR due to the fact it was honda, parts where easier to get and the insurence was about £100 cheaper than other rivals.

All in all there really isnt all that much difference.

Marginal in all bikes in the same catagory.

Just go for the one you feel you will like.
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Scotty · Scooter Boi Joined: 31 Jul 2002 Karma :

And then theres alot of people that say 125's are inferior.
Bah its like most vechiles.

They exceed the abilities of the user.

I mean you'd really have to be one of the guys on the tracks to really test your own abilities.

Its like this if you gave an F1 driver an escort, and you yourself had say an audi TT, the F1 driver would give you a damn good run for your money i assure you Very Happy

And like G said, the faster one would be the better rider.
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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

Which model TZR and which model RG125?

I presume you mean the original TZR. This had a steel frame. Top speed is around 75 restricted and between 90 and 95 when derestricted. To derestrict them you need to fit the power valve kit. Some also seem to have had exhaust restrictors. You can do a bodge job of derestricting them but turning the power valve which gives you no low down power a a full power top end.

I will also presume you mean the original RG125, as you mentioned Gamma. These were VERY light. They would manage about 80mph when restricted, but derestricted they were about the same as the TZR. Very light. Very skinny tyres. Very light. Restricted in the exhaust but very easy to derestrict. And did I mention they were very light?

There were also 2 other models of TZR. The Italian built ones with Brembo brakes. These were never officially imported but and meant to be very quick but vibrate a fair amount. There was also another TZR imported officially but they didn't sell that well.

There was also the later RG125 with a steel beam frame (painted to look like alloy). Easy to derestrict as you cut a single wire to enable the power valve.

All the best

Keith
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tom rg 125 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Karma :

ok i have done a bit of research and i tihnk ile stick with my rg and ile keep it for spears andwhen i can aford it ile by a rg wolf because it looks like a bandit Very Happy

ile get the 1992 model and the derestrict it and get some desant tires on it. i have got ages to spend saving because im 14 so i have got 3 years before i can ride it any way Sad

do you have any tuning tips you want to give me aswel??

Scotty · Scooter Boi Joined: 31 Jul 2002 Karma :

What you want Son is the RGV Wolf, not the RG Very Happy

I have once rode an RG125, not sure what model, quite small, kickstart, very light as keith mentioned, i dont think the front disc was all that big either.

Quite a funny little bike to ride though Cool

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tom rg 125 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Karma :

ok thx but wat is the differance between the rgv and the rg??

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

I think the RGV is a 250cc. An RG 250 is an old paralell twin, and an RGV 250 Wolf is a V twin.

I didn't think there was an RGV125. Smile

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tom rg 125 · Borekit Bruiser Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Karma :

i didnt think ther was a twin 125 el well ile get a wolf because i lve the look of em i think im gona get the 1992 model then spend like £250 moding it.got any tips for moding it??

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

Get a bigger bike. Smile

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Robby · Dirty Old Man Joined: 16 May 2002 Karma :

Modded bikes don't sell, generally because mods reduce reliability and often look shit. Modding a 125 is rather pointless because its a 125, a bike to piss about on with L plates until you pass your test and get a real bike.

If you really want to mess around with it, get a K&N filter as Kris said in another post, fuck up your mixture with it, and have a bike that runs poorly for all the time you have it. Certainly don't get a racing pipe, as it will cost over half the value of the bike, and the stock suzuki pipe is good for about 22bhp.

Basically, if you have £250 knocking around, spend it on some training and test, get your 33bhp restrictiction ticking away. As probably everyone on here will tell you, spending money on a 125 isn't worth it.

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

If you're 14, it hardly matters, as you can't tirde it anyway. Save yout money and get one when you can ride it

andrew · Mister Road Rage Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

You wouldnt happen to be the same person as our 'other' tom would you?

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

On re reading the thread, Being that you're only 14, sell the RG and buy a Motocross bike and start Schoolboy Motocross. This will make you into a better rider than anything you can add to a 125. This is also a good stepping stone to road racing. Chris Walker of WSB fame started in Motocross, as did Colin Edwards and Neil Hodgson (I think). Do that for a few years and you'll be faster on the road than any of us. Smile

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