Ben Spies leaves Yamaha

[Mikey3]

as above....

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/MotoGP/2012/July/jul2412-ben-spies-leaves-yamaha/

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[Pol Anorl]

I don't see what his problem is i think hes mad that hes 10th and won't ever improve

gone from 6th in 2010 7th 2011 10th 2012
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[pinkyfloyd]

I like Ben. He is a great racer but he's suffering from the "shadow of Lorenzo" syndrome. This is the safe affliction that Lorenzo himself suffered with while Rossi was with Yamaha.

It would be good to see what Ben can do with another team.
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[pinkyfloyd]

[Zen Dog]

Now does Cal Crutchlow get his spot, or has he already signed with the career-destroyers Ducati?

Or will Dovi get it?

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[rumppole]

Rossi to Yamaha with his sponsors Marlboro....... you wait and see.
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[pinkyfloyd]

I agree with Mikey3. As much as I would love to see Cal on a factory bike he does suffer with a serious case of the Stoners. He can be riding fantastically and be in line for a podium and then goes and falls off the track. Most of the time its silly mistakes. Sometimes its trying too hard to get a better position. Hopefully he wont go to Ducati.

I think, should Rossi return to Yamaha, it will make for a great rivalry between him and Lorenzo. After all Lorenzo was a bit miffed that Rossi left Yamaha and could not find out who was the better rider on the same bike as Rossi had sustained that shoulder damage and struggled with his last Yami season.

Honda are scrapping one of their bikes next season so chances are they will keep the same riders after Stacy Moaner leaves.
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illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

[garth]

I'd prefer to see Rossi make the Ducati come good alongside Cal.

I'd personally like to see Hayden as the No. 2 Yamaha rider.

[pinkyfloyd]

[garth]

The Ducati Stoner rode and took to a WC was not the same bike that Rossi has now.


Ducati have now been take over by Audi who aren't known to fail.

[pinkyfloyd]

But Audi have never raced motorcycles. There in lies the issue. Personally I would trust my rider over my factory any day if I owned a racing company. If the factory said set it up like this: and then the rider asked for a different set up I would do what the rider wanted. After all he is the one actually riding the bike.
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Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

[chris-red]

[garth]

[Seb]

[Zen Dog]

Yep, I personally think Dovizioso is a good rider, but he just doesnt have the edge. He doesnt sparkle. He had a factory ride, and like Spies, he did nothing with it.

Crutchlow on the other hand, has had some seriously impressive performances, but he's made a few cock ups and had some crappy luck. I think he has the talent to be there or there abouts with the "aliens" given a factory ride.

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[bEN_]

Apparently Spies is doing something with Suzuki

( read it from julian ryders twatter acc, so not sure how good the info is )
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[Mikey3]

Credit where credit's due Cal is right on the verge of success, but I'm talking here from a factories point of view. Ben did so well and got podiums and he's flunked it, do you not think that might be in Yamaha's minds? Cal needs to get some solid results on the board if he's in with a shot of the ride, at least while he's being out performed by his team-mate, even if he is on the way out.
As for Rossi- that doesn't need to be explained. Given his chance to ride his way he's ended up on the podium and makes himself a bitch to get past as we saw at Muggello with Cal.
I'm saying Dovi and Rossi (mainly Rossi) have proven themselves, and Cals proving himself, Yamaha will want someone proven, when Cal does that I believe he'll be in with a chance, until then, the competitions too high.
I reckon 1st choice Rossi, with the marketing benefits and a damn good chance of two bikes back at the sharp end.
2nd Dovi, then Cal.

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[Al]

I don't think Dovi is on his way down.

When he was on the factory Honda his first couple of years he was 5th/6th and only behind the kind of riders you'd expect him to be behind. I think Colin Edwards had a really good season one year but still. He was always clearly the number two rider in the Repsol team.

Then the last year he was only there because of a contract clause so became the number three rider in a team that didn't even want him there, I'm sure he didn't get the level of support that Stoner and Pedrosa got that season yet he still managed to finish third in the championship.

After he was dropped by the manufacture he was with since 2002 he jumped on a satellite yamaha and is putting it on the podium most weeks.


(Al=dovi fan )
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[Vincent]

None of it matters cos Marky Marquez will be thrashing everyone next year.

IMO, Moto2 has been much more entertaining this year. I'd love to see Scott Redding up there, he looks like a real tryer and everyone loves a tryer.
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[Al]

Only thing he'll be thrashing next season is the gravel and maybe the air fence
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