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Martay
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 23 Aug 2010    Post subject: Current Drawn... Reply with quote

Hi there,

doing a little vehicle wiring, and ive managed to confuse myself working out the current drawn in the circuit, so i can work out the size of fuse needed and weather the relay is strong enough.

Basically, im using a relay (switched from the high beam) to turn on a set of OE foglights, and a set of spotlights bumper mounted.

Ive attached a bad paint diagram. Its a 12v circuit. Could someone work out the current drawn by the entire setup please Very Happy

Massive thanks and Karma for all help.

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PostPosted: 22:11 - 23 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could be well out but if Amps is Watts/Volts your pulling like 17-18 and a bit Amps.
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 23 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah thats the 'formula' that i was thinking, but wasnt sure if it was true because of the parallel-ness! I think im making a simple problem complicated!

Anywho, cheers
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 23 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Each of those bulbs will only be seeing 6V in that circuit, so not only will they be a nice shade of yellow, I doubt they'll be 55w at that voltage either.

You need to wire it so they all see 12V (or more like 14). in which case each bulb will draw about 4 amps. Add a bit for wire losses and you're looking at a 20A fuse. Make sure you've got some nice fat wire!
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 23 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

power = voltage x current

so current = power / voltage

ie current = 55 x 4 / 12

= 220 /12

= 18.3 amps

herulach is right though you should wire them all in parallel not in series, as it is, they wont be fully lighting up so it will be using more like 9 amps

wired correctly and they would be drawing 18.3 amps, at the moment probably just 9amps
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PostPosted: 08:12 - 24 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome stuff Smile

A tad more wiring than i thought, but it'll give me something to do today!

Cheers for the help, saved me from hours of disappointment!

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PostPosted: 08:58 - 24 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

herulach wrote:
Each of those bulbs will only be seeing 6V in that circuit, so not only will they be a nice shade of yellow, I doubt they'll be 55w at that voltage either.

You need to wire it so they all see 12V (or more like 14). in which case each bulb will draw about 4 amps. Add a bit for wire losses and you're looking at a 20A fuse. Make sure you've got some nice fat wire!


What he said, I knew I'd missed something. Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 24 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

DONE!

Spent all morning wiring the lights in, and they all work as they should. Rather than having one 12v feeding 2 lights, ive got 4 seperate 12v feeds, one for each light. Each light then has its own earth.
All work at maximum bright-ness.

Cheers for the help. Im really impressed =)
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 24 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that on your 125? Hope you've got a trickle charger, I'd put money on the alternator not being able to keep up with that current draw.
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 24 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
I'm an electronics engineer so can offer some assistance.
As has be pointed out all the bulbs needed to be parallel which you've now done.
Using the basic Ohms law formula of I=P/V (I being current, P power and V voltage) we get 18.333 recurring.
i.e. 220W/12V=18.333A.
Wattage is additive in calculations.
As pointed out you need a 20amp fuse.

Not repeating what is written above, just confirming it Smile
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 25 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

herulach wrote:
Is that on your 125? Hope you've got a trickle charger, I'd put money on the alternator not being able to keep up with that current draw.


Nah, its not on the bike. On the front of my fiesta. Same as this, but this is an internet pic. (https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/add_name_here/S8000836.jpg&imgrefurl=https://b-techracing.blogspot.com/&usg=__kEgrHJ0fAcNSgC6b2N2JirwXHxw=&h=600&w=800&sz=182&hl=en&start=21&zoom=1&tbnid=ZWC01tUWFcUQZM:&tbnh=141&tbnw=182&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfiesta%2Bmk4%2Bspotlights%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D609%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C247&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=638&vpy=306&dur=1893&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=112&ty=159&ei=WdF0TJQ418-MB6Ox4ZsG&oei=TdF0TPyTH5eP4ga18b3nBQ&esq=2&page=2&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:21&biw=1280&bih=609)
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 25 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martay wrote:
herulach wrote:
Is that on your 125? Hope you've got a trickle charger, I'd put money on the alternator not being able to keep up with that current draw.


Nah, its not on the bike. On the front of my fiesta. Same as this, but this is an internet pic.


Hmmmm, tasteful.
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