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SweenyT
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 17 Mar 2011    Post subject: When filtering, would you/should you use your full beam? Reply with quote

As asked in the title...when filtering would you or should you put your full beam on?

The reason I ask is cause I was out riding with a mate on Saturday after a long spell off the bike and we had to filter down the outside of a long (for approx 3/4 mile) lane of traffic. After we got back he said that I should have used my full beam when filtering especially when doing a long filter. He rides a KAWASAKI ZX 10R and I'm on an unmodified ybr125. He said that for me it was even more necessary as my bike is really quiet and as they don't hear me it will ensure that I'm seen when idiots want to spit, throw things out the window or basically open their doors to see what the hold up is.

I thought that putting on the full beam would dazzle the drivers especially any oncoming drivers in the opposite lane.

So, do you? Would you? Is it legal to?
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 17 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't. My light is on dip automatically. that is usually enough.
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 17 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't. I think it would just upset the car drivers.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 17 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paxovasa wrote:
I don't. My light is on dip automatically. that is usually enough.


See now that's what I thought as mine is the same. My mate's got nearly 10 years riding experience over me so I bow to his expertise but all the same.......
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 17 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
I don't. I think it would just upset the car drivers.


I agree.
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 17 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

No that sounds dagerous to me, more likely get squashed by an uncoming car you've dazzled.
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 17 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Might make you seen at the expense of annoying others and dazzling them. But then if a rider is showing that little consideration then why should the cars show any consideration and leave a gap.

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PostPosted: 12:19 - 17 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 17 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys.

To date I've not had any real problems when filtering even when on the packed A406 during rush hour but am curious as to what everyone thinks. I used to drive and didn't like it when a car behind me would have its full beam on let alone a bike.

So far the general consensus is 'no' to full beam which I also agree with. Anyone who disagrees and filters with theirs on?
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 17 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get bikes doing that a long way behind me when I'm filtering and it blinds me when I check my miirrors..... so NO!
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 17 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are people with 20 years experience who still don't know what they are talking about. One of which will probably be your mate in 10 years time.
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 17 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 16:17 - 17 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody who has there full beam on during the day is a dickhead.


Also when filtering make sure you check your mirrors, there is nothing worse than being stuck behind a bike filtering at half the speed you want to.
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 17 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

0ddball wrote:
There are people with 20 years experience who still don't know what they are talking about. One of which will probably be your mate in 10 years time.


I agree that's why I thought I'd ask cause it seemed wrong to me. I'm gonna keep doing what I do and let him do what he does.

Chris-Red, I always check my mirrors cause its not all the time that I like to do the whole speeding at 20+mph through stationary traffic bit and as I'm on a 125 its pretty much a guarantee that someone will come up behind me who on a faster bike or racing through so I'll just shift over as soon as I can and let them go.

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PostPosted: 17:28 - 17 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're not supposed to but....

during the day, i will if i feel i need it on a busy stretch of road.

its sorta like moses and that big bit of water.
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 17 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Full beam (and HID) makes it harder for me to judge approach speed and distance than dip beam. It's just stupid and unnecessary.
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 17 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

No just dipped. You'll piss everybody off my having your full beam on.
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 17 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Anybody who has there full beam on during the day is a dickhead.


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Also when filtering make sure you check your mirrors, there is nothing worse than being stuck behind a bike filtering at half the speed you want to.


Sorry when filtering my eyes are fixed in front of me to make sure no one pulls out....
Will check when stopped, but not when moving.
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 17 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your mate is a bit of a bell end, end of, etc.
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the motorway (heavy traffic) I use hazard lights + flash every 3 seconds or so. Everybody gives way Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
chris-red wrote:
Anybody who has there full beam on during the day is a dickhead.


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Also when filtering make sure you check your mirrors, there is nothing worse than being stuck behind a bike filtering at half the speed you want to.


Sorry when filtering my eyes are fixed in front of me to make sure no one pulls out....
Will check when stopped, but not when moving.


In my eyes that ignorant, a quick glance in the mirror takes nothing. 90% of riders manage it why can't you?

People who don't will sit with a massive queue of bikes and scooters behind them, akin to doing 50 in the fast lane.
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PostPosted: 10:07 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been filtering, and others filtering with full beams on in the distance very mildly irritated / distracted me. You know when you've got stop start motorway traffic, so you filter for a while then merge again and repeat. Can't keep an eye on my mirrors, cos it's just full on dazzle.
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

0ddball wrote:
There are people with 20 years experience who still don't know what they are talking about. One of which will probably be your mate in 10 years time.


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One thing that really pisses me off when driving a car is the idiot riders who have constant full beam on!

Not only does it dazzle you, it also means car drivers cannot see the whole of the bike/rider and therefore making it harder to judge the distance the bike is!

Try it! It's much easier to judge the distance of a solid object than a ball of light from a headlight! Wink
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 18 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just keep the headlights in dipped as I know from past experience that drivers dont like being dazzled. What I tend to do is to blip the throttle as I approach the cars, (Got a straight through arko), which seems to help.

I do try to get out of faster filters but I do tend to find that a lot of my concentration is used looking forward.
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