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hunty997
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 22 Nov 2010    Post subject: Superbyke rbp running problems (low voltage) Reply with quote

In my previous post about the bike not running right, someone suggested that the regulator / rectifier had blown. But changed this to a new one and i still have the same problem.

When the bikes running the battery is making just over 7 volts, I have also checked the wires running to the regulator. and 3 are making positive feed and one negative, I'm unsure if this is normal or not. I have changed the main fuse countless times, so it cant be this. If anyone can point me in the right direction i would be most grateful.

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PostPosted: 19:53 - 22 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check wiring from alternator to the R/R and voltage, also check your earths.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 22 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I shall go and check the voltage going to the 3 wires now.

Also where is the alternator on the bike. As i couldnt find it lol. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 22 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right Ive been out with a multimeter and checked the voltage running to the 4 wires. The readings are

Green - 0.09-1 volt
Red - 4.4/4.6 volt
white - o volt - 5 volts (this was jumping from 0-5 and not staying at a stable voltage)
Yellow - 1.20 volts

And the wires going from the R/R are

Green-green
yellow-yellow
red-red
pink-white (both the new R/R are pink not white)
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 22 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

no i didn't, I will try this tomorrow when i had time, the bike was revving at around 2-3k. thanks to me leaving the choke on while testing Embarassed

I still have no idea what it could be Confused
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 22 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah i think it was a bad idea buying a Chinese bike. Once running properly i might think about buying something a little more. well ermmm reliable lol
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PostPosted: 00:12 - 23 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) You can't measure anything at all with a flat or knackered battery. What is the battery voltage without the engine running? Does charging it make any difference?

2) Without a wiring diagram in front of me, the 4 wires you looked at coming from the alternator are probably a) the power for the cdi b) the trigger for the cdi and c) two charge coils. The charge coils will be putting out AC not DC. If you measure again on AC you'll probably get between 5 and 50Vac depending on revs. You'll need to trace the wires from the alternator to the CDI and to the reg/rec to guess what's going on. Also, does the headlight work with the engine off?

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PostPosted: 09:48 - 23 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it a 6v system?
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 23 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Is it a 6v system?


No idea mate, I dont know alot about bikes and how they run Embarassed

finpos wrote:
1) You can't measure anything at all with a flat or knackered battery. What is the battery voltage without the engine running? Does charging it make any difference?

2) Without a wiring diagram in front of me, the 4 wires you looked at coming from the alternator are probably a) the power for the cdi b) the trigger for the cdi and c) two charge coils. The charge coils will be putting out AC not DC. If you measure again on AC you'll probably get between 5 and 50Vac depending on revs. You'll need to trace the wires from the alternator to the CDI and to the reg/rec to guess what's going on. Also, does the headlight work with the engine off?


I have charged the battery a few times and when charging its making over 12 volts. Around 13-14. This would last a few minutes with the bike running with eg lights on and slowly die to around 9 volts again.

As for the wiring im not sure myself. I can get pictures of the wires going into the R/R if that helps?

Also i was measuring in A/c so this may be why i was getting such a low or wrong reading. Will this only work if its a 6v system?
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 23 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at the battery see if anywhere on it is says 6v on it. If it is a 6v system charging at 12v is not going to do it any good.
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 23 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The battery says on it charge at 12 volts for "selected charge rate and time" so i guess its a 12 volt system, unless the person who owned the bike before me has put a 12 volt battery on a 6 volt system. Ive only had the bike for around 2 months.

There isn't any specifications on it as i tried testing it at work today. And couldn't work out what ampage it runs at..
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 23 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok so this bike is a 12v system from the sound of it you have a bad earth somewhere had this on one of my bikes and did a similar thing, if you in need of the generator i think i got one in the shed will just need removing from the casing as it is cracked but i would check the earths first also the conections from the generator to the loom very comon for the contacts to go bad
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 24 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have charged the battery a few times and when charging its making over 12 volts. Around 13-14. This would last a few minutes with the bike running with eg lights on and slowly die to around 9 volts again.


Battery is most likely very stuffed indeed. Try again with a good one. If you don't want to buy one use a handy car battery connected to the bike with jump leads but disconnect the old one completely first.

You won't get many VAC at all out of the idling bike but should rise significantly (40->60 VAC) with the engine at approx 5000 rpm.


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