Top Gear: BMW Vs Atom

[rac3r]

According to MCN the BMW came second on the leader board...

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/General-news/2011/January/jan2411-s1000rr-second-fastest-ever-round-top-gear-track/?https://www.motorcyclenews.com/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=MCNMCN%20Newsletter%2025.01.2011%20(1

Not Bad
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[N cee thirty]

i'd fancy going round the track on my cg,see how many ''supercars'' i beat
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[Wozza]

The Atom would've had the better power to weight ratio with driver/rider weight included.

[temeluchus]

Wonder how fast the bmw would go given a 150k budget. Mmmmmm.
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[Frost]

BMW: 922bhp per ton
Atom: 863bhp per ton

Including a 70kg rider / driver:

BMW: 688bhp per ton
Atom: 766bhp per ton

Not to mention the car having more than twice the grip, plus a big rear wing to help get the power down along with not having to back off the power to avoid wheelies.

I think that the big thing no one seems to have caught on to was that the bike looked to be holding the car in in a couple of places. Surely they wouldn't test the fastest car ever in the race alone, but would put it round for a solo lap. It's that lap time that was 1:15.1 not the race time so the fact that the bike was only 1 second behind in the race doesn't therefore give it a 1:16.1

[GeneralXcepti...]

I've been to see TG being filmed and it's an entertainment show first and foremost. Facts are sometimes interwoven with the show but it's mostly about the entertainment.

A pro-rider wouldn't have been lifting the front all the time.
A pro-driver wouldn't have been sliding the car around quite so much.
The car was being held up by the bike in some corners.

So I doubt we saw the fastest ever time being set. Both of them would have been given chance to go around the track on their own and set their best. The bike came a close 2nd in those times.

Hey, there's no shame in that though! It's still quicker than the Veyron ooober dubbber version, it's just as practical as the Atom (which has no luggage space, no creature comforts and unless you have a death wish you should wear a lid whilst driving it etc) and costs less than 1/10 of the price.

[c-m]

The track configuration helped the car the win. The bike pasted the car or caught it at multiple stages on the straights. The finish line for that track is right on the exit of the last corner.

[woodyfjr]

Brogan could have won that if he had covered his line (racing error). I'll wait to see who won TG have a habit of editing footage.

The R1 v 911 was edited as McKenzie left the 911 for dead as it was a 3 lap race but Clarkson lost his rattle and had it altered.

Standard production BMW RR against a totally special Atom with twin busa barreled engine.

Do the same race with a SBK version RR no contest.
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[Ben.]

stop whining the bike lost fair and square.

The only thing I would point out is that with the exception of the ducati desmodici, you dont get bikes that are built purely to be the quickest thing you can get away with building. They allways hold back for the sake of durability, price etc. If they ever made a 100k bike, with as much power as they could get, it would be faster than the bmw.
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[UrbanRacer]

yes do STFU and stop your conspiracy theory nonsense.
Brogan gave an interview on Monday saying he was riding as fast as he could.
It was a fair race and the bike did well to stay up its chuff across the finish line.

[mistergixer]

The timed laps are done with just one vehicle on the track, this decides which is fastest. Then they both go out and film a 'race' (with the outcome already decided by the winner in the timed solo laps) to be shown on the TV for entertainment purposes - hence the deiberate wheelies/oversteer etc.

Bike lost, car won. Big deal. It can be debated until the universe ends, but it does not change the facts - that car with that driver is faster around a certain track on a certain day than a particular bike with a particular rider.


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[Rogerborg]

I bet the bike would have won if it had twice the number of engines and wheels.
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[owl10]

In their test the car won fair enough, Cars generally handle better and its a tight track.

Id rather take the bike down the A38 on a summer bank holiday though - In that case the car could only go as quick as the toyota corrolla verso it is stuck behind.
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[hellbound]

In fairness its a hard race as unlike two cars one slip by the car touching the bike and the biker is down.

thats a HUGE risk at that speed
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Guys, there's a reason the lap record around the new Arena circuit at Silverstone is 1m30s in an F1 car and not the 2m+ of the MotoGP bikes. Cars are faster than bikes.
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[G]

Interesting to see that they did actually do a 'real' test - too bad the one they showed looked fake and skewed in favour of the bike.
I must prefer the Fifth Gear ones (though the biker was still show-boating loads in those) where they do seperate laps and overlay them with a 'ghost' so you can get a decent idea of what's going on.

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[Bendy]

And just when you think you've got it all worked out...

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_o8vd6YjZSiM/SLCVqegeR2I/AAAAAAAABTk/C2Nzih0xoeM/s400/Apple-Orange-cropped-737893.jpg

[Pernig]

[JAMSXR]

God my grammar can be shit.. From my experience they do also break more often then bikes.
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