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Muscle Bike Rider
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Will Braided hoses make any differnce to my bike? Reply with quote
I'm thinking of fitting some braided hoses to my XJ600s Diversion single disc model, will they make any real noticable difference to braking or are they just longer lasting?

Sorry if this has been asked before but I'm still a newbie as far as being mechanically minded.

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Paul.
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
From what I understand if the OEM rubber hoses aren't leaking or frayed in anyway theres no point unless you perhaps plan on taking your divvy as a track bike or the TT Razz .

I think they're supposed to prevent flex in the hose meaning the fluid compresses upon the caliper piston more effieciently or something like that barely noticeable on road use apparently.

(Don't hold me to this though I'm sure someone with more knowlege is bound to come up on this Thumbs Up)
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
You will get a much firmer, more direct feel. You will be changing your fluid too so that will also help Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Re: Will Braided hoses make any differnce to my bike? Reply with quote
A5tra_G wrote:
I'm thinking of fitting some braided hoses to my XJ600s Diversion single disc model, will they make any real noticable difference to braking or are they just longer lasting?

Sorry if this has been asked before but I'm still a newbie as far as being mechanically minded.

Ta,

Paul.



Your brakes will feel firmer, partly because the lines expand less under pressure and partly because it requires that you change the fluid and bleed it properly. They also look pretty good, cost less than OEM lines and after 10 or so years rubber ones get a bit old and the banjos etc a bit rusty. As for extra power, possibly, if you are currently pulling the brake lever and it is so soft it touches your bar or your other fingers then it could help braking power, if your lever is not this soft then braided lines just make it feel nicer.


Whilst you are at it, with winter on the way it is worth checking the condition of your front caliper, they can usually benefit from a nice clean up, if you are replacing the fluid anyway then you may as well strip it down and do it properly.

As it is just one line, it won't be expensive and with a single disc every little helps Thumbs Up .
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
As said, the main difference is in the feel on the brake lever, it feels much more precise.
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks guys, got a full set of goodridge for £30 so will fit them next week end, plan on keeping the Divvy for another year so may as well improve what I can for myself plus it might help with the sale when that time comes. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
A5tra_G wrote:
Thanks guys, got a full set of goodridge for £30 so will fit them next week end, plan on keeping the Divvy for another year so may as well improve what I can for myself plus it might help with the sale when that time comes. Thumbs Up


Good man, be sure to strip and clean your caliper, your bike will love you for it. There are guides on here if you haven't done it before Thumbs Up .
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
DonnyBrago wrote:
A5tra_G wrote:
Thanks guys, got a full set of goodridge for £30 so will fit them next week end, plan on keeping the Divvy for another year so may as well improve what I can for myself plus it might help with the sale when that time comes. Thumbs Up


Good man, be sure to strip and clean your caliper, your bike will love you for it. There are guides on here if you haven't done it before Thumbs Up .


Thanks Donny, will print out the guide and have a bash, looks pretty straight forward, only way to learn after all. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 05 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Moxey wrote:
From what I understand if the OEM rubber hoses aren't leaking or frayed in anyway theres no point unless you perhaps plan on taking your divvy as a track bike or the TT Razz .

I think they're supposed to prevent flex in the hose meaning the fluid compresses upon the caliper piston more effieciently or something like that barely noticeable on road use apparently.

(Don't hold me to this though I'm sure someone with more knowlege is bound to come up on this Thumbs Up)


It made a huge difference to my 10 year old but otherwise low-mileage Hornet.

Recommended as an easy, cheap way to improve braking feel if not outright performance. Wink
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 06 Nov 2011    Post subject: Re: Will Braided hoses make any differnce to my bike? Reply with quote
DonnyBrago wrote:
if you are currently pulling the brake lever and it is so soft it touches your bar or your other fingers .


Then you clearly have issues and a simple fluid change could solve the problem.

People seem to think that changing to braided lines cures a lot of issues. Forgetting that they are changing the main cause of problems with braking.....

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PostPosted: 16:14 - 06 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi

Difference between rubber hoses in reasonable condition and braided hoses is minimal. If rubber hoses degrade then yes they will give spongy brakes, but that takes ages.

Not that sure on braided hoses being longer lived (rather than just the bike makers being more paranoid).

If the lever is coming back to the bar then there is something seriously wrong. Possible the hoses are shot, but far more likely that there is a load of air in there. If they are OK when not moving, but braking hard when moving result in them coming back further then there is water in the system.

Braided hoses have disadvantages as well. They are easier to damage, and will damage other things more easily, plus they are harder to route to avoid them rubbing on things.

All the best

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