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crowe
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: KAWA ZX7R questions Reply with quote

I've completed my 2-year restriction on my ER-5 and have found a nice 2001 Kawasaki Zx7R for sale. 19K miles. £1,800 (ono) ....ONLY problem is it's very high for me (tip of big toes on floor!!). It's in my budget and in very good condition. I'm a short arse and as the bike is a heavier than most my questions are:

1-what is the best way to lower it a few inches of so? I've read about shortened suspension links, is this a good option.

2-how much may this cost including labour costs (approx) ?

3-Does it seem like a good price for the bike?

for the condition and price i feel that if i could get this bike lowered then it would be a very good step-up from my ER-5 (plus i could always get it 'raised' again if i felt comfortable with its size in the future).

Thanks in advance


PS- please don't suggest "you'll just get used to the height" as i've had my ER-5 for 2 years and i know what i can/can't manage.
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Often it's not the seat height thats the real problem, but the seat width. The more your thighs go sideways, the less they can reach downwards.

The easiest way to adjust the height would be to remove any preload the current owner has put on the rear chock to try to jack the back end up and make it turn quicker. Once thats done, if it's still to heigh you'll have to think about modified linkages or a shorter spring. Fitting them yourself could be done in half an hour or so. I'd expect a mechanic to charge you an hours labour plus discover pitting on the damper rod, or a leaking seal and either fit a new shock or try to sell you one.
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Re: KAWA ZX7R questions Reply with quote

crowe wrote:
I've completed my 2-year restriction on my ER-5 and have found a nice 2001 Kawasaki Zx7R for sale. 19K miles. £1,800 (ono) ....ONLY problem is it's very high for me (tip of big toes on floor!!). It's in my budget and in very good condition. I'm a short arse and as the bike is a heavier than most my questions are:

1-what is the best way to lower it a few inches of so? I've read about shortened suspension links, is this a good option.

2-how much may this cost including labour costs (approx) ?

3-Does it seem like a good price for the bike?

for the condition and price i feel that if i could get this bike lowered then it would be a very good step-up from my ER-5 (plus i could always get it 'raised' again if i felt comfortable with its size in the future).

Thanks in advance


PS- please don't suggest "you'll just get used to the height" as i've had my ER-5 for 2 years and i know what i can/can't manage.
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Like you I'm a short ass, 5ft 6, but with an inside leg about 29 inches or so. I also have a zx7r. Also like you I have both feet down with tip toes, to flat foot I can only manage 1 foot.

1. The zx7r has a built in height adjuster, its quite possible that the 7r you are looking at has had its rear end jacked up so it would be worth checking.
Its a common thing to do to raise the rear ride height adjuster by 25mm to increase steering response, i haven't done this however.

2. If your desperate to lower it, which id suggest against, a set of dog bones is about £15, and all you would need to do this yourself is an abba stand or something similar to get the rear off the ground (axle stands under foot pegs perhaps).

3. price wise seems fine, 19k isn't many miles and the engines if well maintained are pretty bomb proof.

I know you said you don't think you can handle the height of it as it is, but its just about building your confidence with it.

If you do get it, rest assured its one of the best looking kwaks you can buy Wink

oh yeah, and get yourself over to www.redmonkey.com/7r
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Re: KAWA ZX7R questions Reply with quote

The 750 and 7r has quite a stretched riding position. If you are short, make sure you can comfortably reach the bars.

It sounds stupid, but when i had mine my girlfriend could barely reach the bars enough to turn them.
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Re: KAWA ZX7R questions Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
The 750 and 7r has quite a stretched riding position. If you are short, make sure you can comfortably reach the bars.

It sounds stupid, but when i had mine my girlfriend could barely reach the bars enough to turn them.


+1, the clip ons are also rather low which adds to the stretched effect, below the top yoke in fact.

When I took tuttons zx6r A1P for a quick ride up the road I felt like I was on a touring bike as the bars were so close and high in comparison Laughing
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crowe
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bacon, I'm pretty much those exact dimensions (height/leg) Thumbs Up

I'm not sure exactly what the current suspension settings are (i'm guessing default). Do you ride your zx7r with it on default (ie how i think this bike is when im on tip-toes) or do you ride it on a lower setting?

I'm most likely going to pay a mechanic to put shorter links/bones in (i can always change them back).

I think my immediate concern is getting it home plus also 'getting used' to the bike. I really want to be as comfortable on the bike as possible as it's the first sports bike i've owned.
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 07 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either way, i would try to get the price down - as a guide, i paid £1200 for a 98 2 years ago.. - it was very good condition - only a cracked screen, which was easily sorted.. and the same sort of milage.
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PostPosted: 02:25 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

crowe wrote:
Bacon, I'm pretty much those exact dimensions (height/leg) Thumbs Up

I'm not sure exactly what the current suspension settings are (i'm guessing default). Do you ride your zx7r with it on default (ie how i think this bike is when im on tip-toes) or do you ride it on a lower setting?


Yes I ride my bike setup as default, i.e the rear ride height at the lowest at the moment. I have dropped the yokes through the forks 10mm though which is an extremely common adjustment to make to increase the steering response

crowe wrote:
I'm most likely going to pay a mechanic to put shorter links/bones in (i can always change them back).


Basically zx7r's are setup a bit lardy as standard compared to the older zxr750's and there are a few simple things that people do to remedy this and sharpen up the bikes steering. One of which is increasing rear ride height, hence me suggesting not lowering lower than stock if possible. But again thats up to you.

crowe wrote:
I think my immediate concern is getting it home plus also 'getting used' to the bike. I really want to be as comfortable on the bike as possible as it's the first sports bike i've owned.


Yeah I can see your concern, its significantly heavier than your previous bike and also a very different riding position. But the only way your going to adapt is by riding it.

Slow manouvering is going to be where you will likely notice the most difference. My first ride on the zx7r was picking it up 270miles away up north in Doncaster. Just take your time when setting off, plan ahead, don't rush it etc and I cant see an issue mate Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 02:42 - 08 Feb 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZX7 is a sports bike Crowe.
Best advice I can give is try it first for size and comfort.
They aint very comfy lol/
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