No Insurance - you're guilty??

[Bezzer]

Hadn't heard of this newish law before, I know you shouldn't be on the road if you've got no insurance but now you're considered guilty of other offences as well because "if you weren't there as you're not road legal it wouldn't have happened".

https://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/news/MOTORIST-FACES-JAIL-NEW-LAW/article-3330175-detail/article.html

All the motorcyclists fault unfortunately but the driver is getting all the shit as he was not insured, this should make the uninsured think again I hope.
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[james1988]

I don't agree at all with people being on the road without insurance but fuck me this is a slippery slope to be going down!

[MaybeGuy]

looks like the guy did a favour to the community. 1 less scrotty tracksuit kid on an RS to worry about.

And from the comments, the family are thick as shit.
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[The Artist]

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But yeh, as I said in the other thread. Anyone that thinks that is justice needs their head looking at.

He didn't cause death which is what he is being charged with. He committed an offence, driving with no insurance but the death of the boy was not his fault at all.

[Bezzer]

Ah, didn't realise someone had stuck it in the Biking News section
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=2798376&highlight=#2798376
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[Livefast123]

The rider of the bike obviously went too fast, ran wide and hit a car. He ultimately caused his own death by a riding mistake. However the uninsured, untaxed driver shouldn't have been driving his vehicle on the road because it was illegal.

Two events that came together at the same time to make one devastating consequence. Fate is a strange beast whether you believe in it or not.

I hate uninsured, untaxed drivers / riders as much as the next guy and his being on the road illegally played a part in the guy's death but he did not cause the accident.

He should certainly be charged with the offence of no insurance / tax and the death taken as an aggravating factor to be considered.

Should he be lumbered with the death of a kid..........i really don't know.
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[iooi]

[chris-red]

I'm in 2 minds about this I must admit, I do like the fact he is getting done for it one less insured driver off the roads, it may be a warning to others not to doing it. But it doesn't seem right blaming him when the kid lost control.
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[The Artist]

[dogbot]

Clearly, the CPS believes otherwise.

I don't think he's responsible directly, but it's hard to feel any sympathy for an uninsured driver, either.

[The Artist]

[dogbot]

I think it's about taking responsibility for the things you do.

The biker has taken the ultimate responsibility for his. The car driver now has to pay the penalty for his actions.

There's nothing to say he'll actually be found guilty of everything he's been charged with, after all. They'd have to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that he was responsible for the death, which will be interesting.

But proving he shouldn't have been driving and punishing him accordingly will be no problem. And he deserves it.

[The Artist]

I fully agree he should get the usual punishment for no insurance e.g. points, fine and ban if he has a history of motoring offences.

I do not agree one bit with a custodial sentence.

I will be following any more reports about this case.

[dogbot]

What's the point of banning him? He'll just drive anyway...

[The Artist]

[Bezzer]

[blurredman]

Time and time again,

If you cannot afford the car you're in, get a Marbella and your insurance will only be 100 quid a year. Less
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[chris-red]

[iooi]

[MinhDinh]

Put it this way.

If you do not have insurance, then you should not be on the road.
If you are not on the road, then there may not have been a crash.

Don't get me wrong, when it said Aprillia, I assumed RS125 scumbag too. The kid was at fault but insurance is that important.
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[chris-red]

Where will they draw the line.

What about if your MOT is up or your tax has run out.
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