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sparkywilliam...
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 27 Mar 2011    Post subject: Bandit rear pads Reply with quote

Just put nearly new brake disc on the back and levered apart old pads,greased pins and reassembled and as rear while spins they are very slightly rubbing at one point,if I run her for a while will the pad material erode without damaging my new disc?
Incidentally one of the pins is impossible to get out,used plus gas,pliers,it won't move,I know this is very common but apart from heat I can't think how to get it out.
Finally has anyone got a good condition chain I can buy.
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 28 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pads need to bed in.

As for getting the pins out, a little heat, mole grips and a hammer. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 28 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I veeerry carefull used a fine nozzle blowtorch to heat up the caliper, then sprayed brake cleaner on just the pin to make it contract and gave it a good yank with mole grips and they came out. Defo the way to do it. But yeah, they're such a pain in the ass.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 28 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok thanks guys-heat looks like the way.

i wouldn't normally be a skinflink and would replace chain/sprockets as a kit but i will be trading it in for something bigger soon so not bothered about spending too much money - so if anyone can recommend where i can buy a near new chain i'd appreciate it although i'm finding ,because people do replace the lot,that chains on their own are difficult to source.
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 28 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Suzuki-GSF-600-BANDIT-X-Ring-Chain-1995-1999-/150579923198?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item230f4348fe#ht_500wt_1156
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 28 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah thanks bud,
So i presume the same chain that fits the pre-2000 will also fit MK2?-i wasn't sure.
And with this i don't need a chain tool rivet?
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 28 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

The pins in the rear pads are a pig.

Sometimes helps to split the caliper, as this at least frees off one end of the pins. And if you are lucky the end that is still stuck is the non blind end so you can knock them out. However mole grips on the pins (not just pliers) and trying to rotate them a bit does stand a good chance of working.

All the best

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PostPosted: 13:09 - 28 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

sparkywilliams wrote:
Ah thanks bud,
So i presume the same chain that fits the pre-2000 will also fit MK2?-i wasn't sure.
And with this i don't need a chain tool rivet?


That one comes with a both a rivet and a split link although IMO split links should be reserved to smaller bikes only.
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 28 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The easiest way to remove a stuck pin in a Bandit rear caliper is to drill a hole in the back and punch it out. Hold the caliper up and line up the pin from a couple of angles to find where the blind hole is, mark and centre punch it then drill a 3mm hole, you'll get a puff of oxide as you break through to the pin then use a punch or masonry nail to knock it out. A 3mm hole is the ideal, the pins are 4.7mm ish in diameter so won't drop through, you've always got the hole then for the next time unless you grease the pins a regularly or replace with stainless ones. It's easy to do, no need to strip the caliper or detach it from the brake line etc, done it loads of times for mates, Suzuki rear calipers are infamous for the stuck pin.
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 28 Mar 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok thank you fellas,i know the score now.
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PostPosted: 09:12 - 01 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys,I'm unsure as to wether I should go for a split link or hard rivet,I like the idea of being able to easily take the chain off and I don't want to spend on a hard rivet tool.
I'd appreciate any opinions?
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 01 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no real need to remove your chain unless it's for replacement so stick with a rivet, safer than a split link for everyday riding.
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 01 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

sparkywilliams wrote:
Guys,I'm unsure as to wether I should go for a split link or hard rivet,I like the idea of being able to easily take the chain off and I don't want to spend on a hard rivet tool.
I'd appreciate any opinions?


I wouldn't ride a big bike with a split link in the chain for any extended period.

Buy chain, fit with split link, ride to garage using the split link, get them to rivet the chain properly for you Thumbs Up . If you supply the links they will probably charge somewhere in the region of £5-10 to rivet it for you.

Alternatively, buy a DID soft link chain and use a molegrips and a some hammers to rivet it. It's the pikey way of doing it but it can be done well (see below).


https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=185149&highlight=hammer+chain+link
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 02 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks DonnyBrago,

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Suzuki-600-Bandit-2000-2004-Model-O-Ring-Chain-/170544603782?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item27b5402286#ht_794wt_698

Since i want to check the swingarm bearings i may as well opt to put on the above endless chain afterwards as that is exactly what i have on my bike at the moment.
reckon that a good move?
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 02 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally wouldn't fit a £30 unknown make chain on a B6, or any other decent sized bike for that matter. You get what you pay for with a chain, as the price decreases the possibilty of failure increases.
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 03 Apr 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bezzer wrote:
I personally wouldn't fit a £30 unknown make chain on a B6, or any other decent sized bike for that matter. You get what you pay for with a chain, as the price decreases the possibilty of failure increases.


+1

Imagine riding along at 40mph and the chain snaps, this is a big fat heavy metal chain being flung at your leg/spine from behind.

Spinal surgery is far more than a decent chain
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