Been Ripped Off? I Think so. :(

[Kmx125]

So i took my back wheel in to the shop on Tuesday for them to change my disc, phoned up today and the guy says i have got the disc off, but had to weld something to the bolts to get it off, so i need new bolts, which are 6 pounds each? ( i need 8 )

So i said leave it i'l come and get the wheel, got there and he said that's 30 pound... i feel i have been skanked!
Baring in mind this is probably half hours work?

What are your thoughts guys?

Thanks.
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[edeaton]

Yeah thats harsh, usually charge that to fit a tyre. Buy a socket set + breaker bar for next time?
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[iooi]

Well toll if its a good deal, you would need to know what the dealers hourly rate is.

Most charge per hour and not part of, so £30 sounds like a good dealto get the disk free. Search ebay and you will find bolts for less.
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[0l0dom0l0]

Having just tried to remove the bolts on the rear disc of my Fazer (3 sheared and the other 3 rounded, with a 5mm alen key socket) that it can be very hard to get them off.

On the other hand I was planning to re-use the disc, and hence why I didn't heat the bolts. The mechanic should have heated them before removal which meant they wouldn't have snapped.

£6 a bolt is VERY expensive, and sounds like a rip off to me. Have you checked Bbay and the like to see what they cost on there?

Hope that helps.

(ps posted this in both threads!) lol
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[Al]

You posted in the workshop last week saying you couldn't get the bolts undone, so you took it to a garage and he got them off for £30 which sounds fair enough.

Bolt sound expensive though, but I have no idea how much they normally cost.
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[Fisty]

£30 is more than fair, id be happy to pather than fuck around getting sheard bolts out myself.

As for the bolts the price is about right for oem stuff.
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[John933]

What are they Gold plated bolt's. Give me a size and I'll give you an idea how much. But I cab buy 20 6/8 mm bolt's, Depending the length, From about £2.50. That's nut, bolt, and washer's.
No idea if the shop will do postage. But I can get the phone number is any one is interested.
John933

This is something I posted about the same thing, some place else.

I usually get a few nut's and bolt's from a fastener place near me. Any way I was told to try another supplier. And I did. Was surprised at the price, Compared to my old place.
I.E.
High tensile zinc plated 10mm X 55 bolt's nut and washer's (20) £2.30

What I brought in all was. With nut and bolt and washer, was.

(20) 10X55
(20) 8X50
(20) 6x50
(20)10x30
(20)8x30
(20)6x30
(50)4mm washer's
(50)5mm washer's
So I've brought 120 nut bolt's and washer's. Plus 100 washer's. Grand total with VAT £16.86 I think that's good. I'll be down there again to fill in a few blank's. On the understanding that you can't have too many good nut's and bolt's.
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[chris-red]

Yep sounds fair to me, most manufacturers state you should replace disc bolts anyway.


If you couldn't get them off obviously they needed sound work to take them off, £30 is more than fair. Stop being tight.
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[Kmx125]

30 pounds to remove eight bolts is terrible, i will not be going back there!
I tried an impact driver and the bolt's didn't move! Had no choice but to go to a shop

I have tried Ebay but no luck I don't know where else to look?

They are allen key bolts, they screw into the disc, then into the hub.
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[hellkat]

Welcome to the expensive world of having to get other people to fix your bike
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[jimspeed]

It sounds very fair to me if I'm honest as said YOU had already tried and failed to remove them and if they were into alloy (a guess here ) they could easily have taken a couple of hours to remove without damaging the wheel or disk.
look at the £30 compared to a new wheel if you had snapped the bolts off in it and it now looks good value.
was it a bike place or a normal workshop? most are going to be charging at least £25 per hour I would think and the bolts could easily be that sort of money

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[Rogerborg]

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[Raffles]

[G]

It'd have been nice to tell you beforehand, but for the work needed, it sounds fair - especially if you didn't ask them to inform you if it was going to be expensive.
I've paid more than that to have a couple of studs extracted from an engine head I gave them.
I knew it was going to be an annoying job, so didn't baulk at the price.

Price for the bolts sounds about right for the standard OE prices - try ebay etc for cheaper.

[Polarbear]

I would go further than the others and say they have been kind to you. That isn't expensive, they saved your disks. I think you have found a good spanner shop.
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[Kmx125]

O.k maybe i am being a tight arse, but i never asked what the price would be as i didn't think it would be that much

And it was a workshop that i took it to and it was the guy there that said 6 pounds each

On the other hand i have found these, which i think are a good price.


https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BOLT-ROTOR-DISC-BOLTS-KX-KXF-RM-RMZ-RMX-125-250-450-/360310688334?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item53e430ca4e#ht_1955wt_982[url]

Thanks for all your post's guys
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[stinkwheel]

Sounds like a total bargain to me.

I payed £20 to get someone to mill two broken, rusted stumps of mudguard bolt out of the alloy lugs on a set of forks (as supplied by the breakers!) and consider it to have been a bargain.

They must have been well stuck and he's probably undercharged you in comparison to the amount of time and effort the job took.

Those prices are probably for genuine parts but it's entirely possible that they are an odd size and only available from kawasaki.
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[Easter Bunny]

Yeah like before, pay up.......they sorted the problem you couldnt, unfortunately in life in order to make an omlette you have to break eggs.

It was probably a job they didnt really want to do anyway, too many people moan about stuff like that afterwards, if you did start to get shitty he would probably tell the next person that comes in with the same problem "sorry mate cant help!"
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[27cows]

Could have bought a £30 Aldi welder and done the job yourself, and still had the welder The price for the work involved is reasonable only by comparison to the usual ripoff rates of dealers. I have never needed to weld a disc bolt to free it - so you have to wonder how competent they are. Do they not possess air tools or PlusGas?

£8 a bolt sounds about right - I remember a local Yam dealer wanting about six quid a pop for disc bolts for an XJ600 once. You'll often find they're a difficult to find type - fine thread pitch, low profile heads, that kind of thing. They also need to be a particular tensile strength. Be careful when selected cheaper alternatives that you get something that will do the job properly.

Could very likely have bought a whole wheel with disc much cheaper than putting the part in a dealers etc.
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[Paxovasa]

Someone must have used a copious amount of loctite on the bolts.

When I changed my front discs I had to use an extension bar to get them to free up.

£30 is a good price for the work they had to do.
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[DrDonnyBrago]

£30 is very good if all 8 had to be welded, impact wrenched heated up etc etc etc. I paid £40 for a friend of a friend to remove a severely corroded chain adjuster from my swingarm and thought that was a brilliant price.

OEM parts are pisstake expensive, that's not the fault of the garage.

[CaNsA]

If you cant do, you end up paying someone to do it....

Suck it fat boy