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PostPosted: 13:43 - 08 Aug 2011    Post subject: Wheel bearing problem Reply with quote

Hi all,

Just got delivery of my 17 inch rear wheel, and it's as I feared, the outer race is spinning in it's seat. I was thinking of trying to use some bearing lock on it, just as a temporary measure as the bike will only be used every now and again (track bike)

Is that a bad idea, or will I be able to get away with it? The bearing is a 6004 (20X42X12mm) whats the next size up so I can get it machined out and do it properly please?
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 08 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get bearing lock from Loctite.It is pretty good stuff if you follow the use instructions.I would stake the bearing housing in several places once the bearing is in place.Then make sure that the spacers fit correctly and securely.
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 08 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Doing it properly probably would entail building the wheel up with weld and remachining the bearing housing. Or machining it out to take a sleeve.

Getting a bearing that has a larger external diameter but the same internal diameter and depth might well not be easy.

All the best

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PostPosted: 14:09 - 08 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fizzer Thou wrote:
You can get bearing lock from Loctite.It is pretty good stuff if you follow the use instructions.I would stake the bearing housing in several places once the bearing is in place.Then make sure that the spacers fit correctly and securely.


I had seen it, so wondered if anyone had used it before in this application before I spend out and it's useless. The only problem with staking is that it'll ruin the wheel after a couple of changes, I suppose as I won't be changing them often it won't be such a problem.

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Doing it properly probably would entail building the wheel up with weld and remachining the bearing housing. Or machining it out to take a sleeve.

Getting a bearing that has a larger external diameter but the same internal diameter and depth might well not be easy.

All the best

Keith


That does sound like a massive ballache to be fair Keith, building up a 12mm stack of weld will take a LOT of time and money.

The sleeve sounds better, bore the hole out to take some thin wall tubing of the correct I/D then weld it to the wheel, would that work maybe?

I'll give a local place a bell, see if they can help me out Smile thanks guys.
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 08 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You would only need to build it up by a mm or so before cutting it down. All you need is enough extra meat on it to take up the wear.

With a sleeve you would be best off just making up a an appropriate sleeve that is a tight fit, then use a strong loctite to locate it. Otherwise you are going to have to use an alloy sleeve to weld to the wheel and then clean it up afterwards.

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PostPosted: 14:28 - 08 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a 20x45x12 but i don't think it's a standard size. Honda use it in various front wheels.

Unless it's very loose, i.e just drops out, i'd be tempted to just use bearing lock. If you use a quality bearing you aren't going to be changing it again for years anyway.
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 08 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

it doesn't drop out, but I did manage to just pry it out with a screwdriver, so think that the odd sized one might be a good idea, although if the loctite will fix it temporarily and cheaply I think it might be worth a go Thumbs Up Will also have a word with my mates dad who could probably get any of the above options done and see if he can help.
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 09 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to grab some oil for the VFR, and saw a packet of loctite stud and bearing lock, tried it out just as a temporary measure, and it seems to have held for now, but I'll be keeping an eye on it from now on.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 11 Aug 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

How loose is loose? Loctite alone to glue it in won't last, it needs to be an interference fit i.e hammered/pressed in.

A beer can might be the right sort of thickness for a tight sleeve, if it's too thick a little bit of sanding will open it up pretty quickly. Keep the sanding even and check the fit often, last thing you want is to make it too loose again. To keep track of how much you're taking off you can draw a line, with a marker, around the center and sand until it comes off. 240 grit is a good choice.
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