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it will sell for fuck all cos no one will want to insure it.
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| Posted: 17:30 - 08 Jun 2011 Post subject: |
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Oh well fuck value this is a project 
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| Posted: 19:20 - 08 Jun 2011 Post subject: |
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| Lipsmoker wrote: | I agree with you mike but when i'm finished it's not going to be "an illegal, mongrel of clapped out unpopular bike with an even less common, chinese motor" |
Not to YOU, but any-one else, wont be whats on the log book, wont conform to any known 'standard' mix & match of unknown bits from obscure manufacturers, and in general an complete unknown quantity.
Doesn't matter how WELL you build this mongrel, it's still a mongrel, and you wont get pedigree money for it, no matter how 'nice' a mongrel it is.
| Lipsmoker wrote: | Oh well fuck value this is a project |
Value of building specials is the pleasure you get from building them & using them.
to any-one else, its 'value' is rated against what else does the same job, or costs the same money.
Look at snowie's 'Pup'.
Two and a half grands worth of parts and materials have gone into building that bike, and it's NOT far from 'standard'.
Its a calalogue spec Honda CB125, a known brand, popular model, well renovated with LOADS of new parts, all in the right places, painted up to showroom standard, with a few 'accessories' like the heated grips and engine bars chucked in. If Snowie put that bike up on e-bay, she'd be LUCKY to get much over a grand for it....
She certainly wouldn't get what it's cost her to build, becouse people would simply look at it and think, Nice, BUT, for that money I can have a brand new CBF125 with a warranty, and probably get the dealers to chuck in some heated grips......
I have an air cooled DT125, which, probably is about as learner illegal as your creation, with a 175 barel on it. Probably makes as much power, too, and is lighter, and a known quantity, with all parts available off the shelf, and NO question about welds and engine mounts, or anything.
DT125LC, any of them made since 1983, properly de restricted, make as much power, and are as learner illegal, but exactly as show-room spec, parts available, and no questions. As other "t 125 dirt bikes.
Yours might get brownie points for being 'as fast' as a de-restricted DT.... but ultimately its NOT a de restricted DT... its a mongrel, of unpopular Spanish make frame and cycle parts with uncommon Chinese engine in it... and a LOT of question marks.
Having paid what was it, £480 for it, I don't know what the overhaul has set you back, but I would doubt you'd realistically cover your costs, building it for sale, hence, do tests on hire bike, make it legit, and ride the value out of it as a 'special'.. because it IS special, you built it... but its ONLY special top YOU, because you are the only one that has built it!
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| Posted: 20:46 - 08 Jun 2011 Post subject: |
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Well It's cost me around £30 so far and i'm almost finished
it will be on the road for a total of £600 including tax and Mot
and thanks for the tips mike very informative. 
Not much to do now, will update soon.
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| Posted: 20:57 - 08 Jun 2011 Post subject: |
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ignoring the fact that your committing insurance fraud and not riding in accordance with your licence...
your also committing tax fraud.
now, insurance and licence is a bit 'meh' who cares, but if you get caught for that, you'll also get done for tax fraud, hmrc make the gestapo look like softies, if you try and 'steal' from them.
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| Teflon-Mike wrote: | | Lipsmoker wrote: | Yeah i know how it works mike has explained to me on a appropriate thread about this theres no need to hijack a thread telling me something i already know.  |
Oi! Calm down lippy! That thread is gawd knows how many pages long burried over on work-shop! CH15, ent to know you already know, & He's hardly hi-jacking the thread. & it IS pertinant to any-one ELSE reading THIS thread, even though YOU might already know it! |
Maybe he's copped the arse with being repeatedly told what a bad boy he is, how he'll burn in hell and his bike is a worthless piece of old tat?
It's a bit like my Mum keeps telling me to give up smoking; after 30 years of it, I feel like telling her to eff off every once in a while.
The truth is, none of us really knows what it's worth, because someone might read his 'for sale' advert and like the look of it, after all, the conversion seems to have been done to a fairly high standard.
Hell, a couple of weeks ago I watched some Ebay mug pay nearly 700 quid for a non running, incomplete, 30 year old TS250 
I was hoping to pick it up for a couple of hundred (because that's what I considered it's value to be) but the seller found the right buyer and bloody good luck to them both.
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| Posted: 19:36 - 13 Jun 2011 Post subject: |
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Rear Engine bolts here so got all the Bolts to put it all right need my step dads drill to drill out the old holes because the bolts are pretty fat once that's done the engine will be in/carb set up ill put a video up giving it a blast down my back road (it's a private road) then its all tarting it up from then on.
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| Posted: 19:23 - 14 Jun 2011 Post subject: |
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Got the Mounts drilled out and test fitted the arm, Perfect
also sorted the exhaust fitting out.
Just got to paint the arm maybe tonight or tomorrow and get it bolted up.
Pics soon
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| Posted: 20:24 - 17 Jun 2011 Post subject: |
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I suppose it means i'm legal well still not legal because the engine change would still need declaring regardless of the Capacity right?
Ill find out the CC
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| Posted: 21:03 - 17 Jun 2011 Post subject: |
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Just so you know The capacity is Pi/4 x Bore^2 x stroke
To be fair, looks like you've done a good job! Isnt the cc usually stamped on the engine barrels?
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errm, capacity calculation, isn't it -
pi * (bore radius)squared = Area
Volume is then area * stroke.
and do it all in cm not mm, otherwise confusion really rules!
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| Posted: 20:00 - 20 Jun 2011 Post subject: |
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Curiosity got the better of me today and while the electrics are all done i tighten up all the engine bolts and tested for a spark there is a nice bright blue one
Now just going to get the exhaust and carb back on and set her up!
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| Posted: 18:13 - 22 Jun 2011 Post subject: |
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So after i had that spark i put all the carb on then i didn't have a spark.
went over all the connections and changed some and got a spark just put the carb and fuel tank on and kicked her over nothing compression is very high and very hard to kick at tdc charged the battery up pulled the choke out and she fired on the button just wanted to make sure everything was good really she idle'd at what sounds like 8,000 rpm lol with no exhaust not good for a cold engine so turned it off instantly.
Then decided i was going to sort all the loom out wrap it up properly not bodged with black electrical tape like it is now, took the carb off ready to catch the fuel there's nothing in there?
Nothing in the pipe to the carb from the tank either.
There's petrol in the tank and tried it on reserve and ON nothing i think the second it ran was just unburnt fuel in the engine itself the carb was sucking air.
Going to sort out the loom Get everything back on then look at this carb problem last
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