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t101
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 13 Jun 2011    Post subject: changing tyres yourself Reply with quote

is this as simple as it looks in the videos? is there any reason why i shouldnt/cant do it? would save a fair bit of money i think
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PostPosted: 23:37 - 13 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not for me. I don't have the time/gear/inclination. Last time I had new boots it cost me £60 to have them fitted & balanced. I also know they've been done right.

And that'll work out at about £1 per week based on my mileage.

I'm happy to live with that.

If I got into racing, or touring I'd like to know how to do it. But until that day comes.........
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 13 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can balance the wheels yourself, then I don't see a problem.
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sham wrote:
Not for me. I don't have the time/gear/inclination. Last time I had new boots it cost me £60 to have them fitted & balanced. I also know they've been done right.

And that'll work out at about £1 per week based on my mileage.

I'm happy to live with that.

If I got into racing, or touring I'd like to know how to do it. But until that day comes.........



£60!!!!! Thats pretty rapey!

My last tyre change cost £28 with valves and balancing with a ride in service (I even had siezed axles and he didn't charge me anything for the extra time it took), not loose wheels. That was speed superbikes in exeter, great place if I may say so.
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PostPosted: 00:18 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy enough for tubeless wheels.

Can be difficult for tubeless unless you have a bead breaker (and even then, some can be bloody tight, my local place struggles to get bridgestones on my VFR even with the tyre machine).

You can sometimes struggle to get either sort to seat on the rim properly without the use of a compressor to blow them up really hard the first time around.

EDIT: If I buy the tyres off him and take in a loose wheel (I drop them out in the carpark, centre stands are a good thing to have) my local place fits and balances them for free. Otherwise he charges £6 to swap tyres over if I bring them in myself (including replacing the valve).
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PostPosted: 00:24 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

My last rear tyre was £15 fitted on a loose wheel. Including the tyre!
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacon wrote:



£60!!!!! Thats pretty rapey!

My last tyre change cost £28 with valves and balancing with a ride in service (I even had siezed axles and he didn't charge me anything for the extra time it took), not loose wheels. That was speed superbikes in exeter, great place if I may say so.


It may not have been £60, just guessing as I never checked the price breakdown, so it maybe cheaper. It was a Suzuki main dealer as well, but as they were closest and could do them to fit in with my plans, I was quite happy to maybe (or maybe not? Must dig out receipt!) pay over the odds. That was for both wheels by the way and not loose.

Either way, I'd still prefer to have them done right once, rather than to save a few quid, and have me feck it up!
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PostPosted: 01:27 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

its a peace of cake to do yourself i have a home made bead breaker which is the hardest bit before i made my bead breaker i used a shovel
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PostPosted: 05:54 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why's it so expensive to have a bike tyre changed? I've never had it done before on a bike, last time it cost me £24 for all four car tyres to be changed.
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PostPosted: 06:33 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did my own just over 2 weeks ago.

Set of tyre levers, a rubber mallet and a lot of patience.

Got the old one off, new one went on, used slightly soapy water and it popped on "fairly" easy.

Levered that on...

Rode 2 miles got a nail in the tyre Laughing

Plugged and its been fine since Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 07:11 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always change the tyres on my CG myself.

I just deflate them, whack a tyre lever in, hold it down whilst whacking another tyre lever in further along and work my way around. Come off dead easy.

The harder part seems to be getting a new 'stiff' tyre on.

I'm becoming accustomed to the art of tyre changing now, the Heidenau tyres I put on my CG are bought cos they're easy to get hold of and they're all I know, but so far I've only managed to get one to last up to 5k miles before being square and practically bald.


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PostPosted: 08:29 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim Mc wrote:
Why's it so expensive to have a bike tyre changed? I've never had it done before on a bike, last time it cost me £24 for all four car tyres to be changed.

At a main dealer you're paying for the rent of an expensive shop, the salary of a trained mechanic, general heating and lighting, salaries for various managers and admin people and so on.
Go to a bloke running it from a shed and it's likely to be cheaper - I don't like to pay much more than a fiver for changing a tyre on a loose wheel.
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Changing a tyre and having the wheel balanced cost me 10 quid at my local garage.. I cannot be arsed to do it by myself.
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Place I go charges me a fiver a wheel. I always bung him double.
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would prob do it my self if i could get the new tyre to be popped back on without a compressor or what not. Changing the valve and getting the tyre off/on is easy(ish). Also i couldn't balance them. Hunters in newcastle charged me £150 to change both wheels and change the valves/blance them/test and they were loose wheels.
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Balancing is very easy, presuming your wheel has bearings.

Just stick a rod through the wheel, put it between two chairs, boxes or similar and spin it.
Note where it stops and do it a couple more times to be sure. Attach weight to the opposite side.
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PostPosted: 11:01 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Balancing is very easy, presuming your wheel has bearings.

Just stick a rod through the wheel, put it between two chairs, boxes or similar and spin it.
Note where it stops and do it a couple more times to be sure. Attach weight to the opposite side.




The rod would have to be a good fit either side of the bearings other wise the the wheel will not be center plus its no good for single side swingarm wheels.

ABBA do a good tyre changing kit which l,ve used for many years.

Bead breaker:
Balancing stand (two bearings on each support):with steped apdators for standard wheels and a lockable cones for single swingarm wheels.
Plastic rim protectors:
Two tyre levers:


of course you also need, bead paste,valve puller, compressor,and rim weights plus replacement tubless valves. So unless you change alot of tyres at home like me its not worth buying all the gear.
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PostPosted: 11:17 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my experience, it doesn't make a big difference whether it's a good fit or not - the wheel will still fall to the heaviest point.

But yes, it does have to have bearings (so not single sided).
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
In my experience, it doesn't make a big difference whether it's a good fit or not - the wheel will still fall to the heaviest point.

But yes, it does have to have bearings (so not single sided).


Could just use the bike's own spindle/axle
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Have done tubed tyres, but something I can't be bothered to do now.

Haven't got a bead breaker for tubeless tyres, and the nearest I have got to doing them was getting a tyre displaced enough to change a valve. And that was a bad enough.

Wouldn't worry too much about balance for normal use on the roads.

All the best

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PostPosted: 12:15 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the spindle between a pair of car ramps for balancing. Seems to work ok.

I actually find small tubed tyres more stressful. I can't get my fat fingers in to get the valve in the right place and then there isn't enough room for the tyre levers.

I've done up to a 160 section at home without too many problems.
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

cb1rocket wrote:

Could just use the bike's own spindle/axle

Depends how good the bearings are - a threaded rod or similar lets the wheel spin on that too.

A 'proper' home balancer like the Abba will also have separate bearings which it's spinny-rod can spin on.

Marki - it's possible to make something sold as a 'tyre snake'. Basically attach some string, lock wire etc to either a valve or something with a similar thread (bit of threaded rod with a hole in is ideal). You can then pull the string through to get the valve in to place.
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PostPosted: 12:51 - 14 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Marki - it's possible to make something sold as a 'tyre snake'. Basically attach some string, lock wire etc to either a valve or something with a similar thread (bit of threaded rod with a hole in is ideal). You can then pull the string through to get the valve in to place.



https://www.dirtbikebitz.com/drc-air-valve-puller-p-5407.html

Well worth it, saves the skin on you fingers when trying to get tyre tube valves through the hole on the rim and can be used to pull tubless vavles into place, plus they have a valve core remover on the end.


I,ll give the rod/spindel method ago next time l,m chaning tyres in the field as l used rim locks on all my traveling bikes so balancing is very important when having to ride long road/motorway seactions. though offend once its been blanced l,ve not had any problems yet when swaping from road to offroad tyres.
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