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 Posted: 02:20 - 03 Jul 2011 Post subject: Halogen spotlight question |
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Earlier this year I decided to replace the lights in our lounge and kitchen, as I was re-boarding the knackered ceilings anyway I thought it would be a good idea to fit halogen spotlights as the wiring would be easy to do with the ceilings removed, had ceilings plastered and fitted the new lights and it looked great, however now I've had them a few month they're actually a massive pain in the arse, when they're on they almost blind you if you sit under them ,the bulbs are forever blowing, when they blow they trip the rcd and the amount of light lost from one blown bulb is unbelievable, they're a couple of quid a bulb so can become costly if like me you let them all blow till there's only a couple left, have looked into led bulbs but at £12 a bulb and 18 bulbs in total there's no way I'm going down that road, needless to say they're coming out and I'm going back to normal light fittings and a flourescent tube in kitchen, problem is I'm going to be left with 18 holes, Filling them in is gonna be a pain as it means the ceilings will need painting again, and I really don't feel like doing that sh1t all over again, are there any kind of white plastic caps that I can just push into the holes? Have tried google and ebay and comes up with nothing, karma for anyone who can find something suitable  |
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What fittings do you have? LED GU10's are under £3 these days. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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 neil. World Chat Champion

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| Rogerborg wrote: | What fittings do you have? LED GU10's are under £3 these days. |
Cheap LED fittings are a false economy! They are generally rubbish, usually sold by B&Q and give LED lighting a bad name as people buy these cheap rubbish, realise they are shit then go round saying "LED lamps are shit!"
LED lamps with multiple single LED's in them aren't even worth the packaging they are in for starters. You want to be looking for something with a CREE or philips chip in them, but more importantly is how they dissipate the heat. The chip may be rated at 10,000 hours but if they do not have decent heat dissipation they won't last half of that. Look for brands such as Deltech, Decor, Megaman and Phillips.
neil. decent LED lights have a good beam angle now and a quality (expensive) lamp will, just about, compare to a 50W halogen.
Your 18 50W GU10's are burning 900W all the time they are on, changing to 4W Decor LED's at £12.49 each will cost you £224.82 but cut your electric from 900W to 72W in total. Their rated life is 30,000 hours compared to approx 2500 of a halogen (if you're extremely lucky) so whilst you have to spend £225 now you'll save that back relatively quickly.
They have a 36deg beam angle (same as GU10) and are equivalent to 35W, which wil be a benefit if you're saying your 50W's are too bright... only negative is these particular lamps aren't dimmable (you can get dimmable LED's but they're more than twice the price)
p.s I've never seen any type of plug to fill a downlight hole so if you do go down the removing them route it'll be a case of plasterboarding the hole and then skimming over. Anything else will look a bit rubbish! ____________________ Current Toys: 06 Yamaha WR250F | Nissan 350Z GT | Tech 4 Homes |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 15 years, 133 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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