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 Posted: 09:12 - 08 Jul 2011 Post subject: Busted - doh. |
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/facepalm
94 in a 70 (Mway)
Decided in my infinite wisdom to undertake and give a 'WTF idiot' stare to a silver Jag XF hogging lane 3 this morning.
After this, and the further two undertakes on dawdling commuters, you can imagine my suprise when that same silver Jag comes tearing up behind with blues and two's on....
Clocked at 94 between two fixed points (he showed me the screen readout) but refused to show me the video. In the end I accepted the 3 points and £60 fixed penatly bribe with good grace.
Ho-hum. That'll teach me for lack of obs. ____________________ NSR125RR - ZXR750H1 - ZX9R E1 - GSF600S - GSF600SK3 - VFR400-NC30 - SV1000N - ST1100-R - CBR900RR-R - GSF1200SK5 - GSF600SK1 - VFR1200FA - GSXR1000K2 - ZZR1400 D8F
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Another lack of observation by the OP.
I think 3 points is probably the best outcome you could hope for tbh. I'm glad he took your look during your undertake as he should have - totally justified. Another officer may have decided to make your life hell to feed his superiority complex.
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And you just know that copper is going to boot it all the way home after his shift, undertaking and cutting folk up like a proper mental. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Hey could of been worse you could of flipped him off hahaha . |
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Driving without Due Care?
I've been given a bollocking for undertaking and that was only a few months back. I'm aware it doesn't technicaly exist anymore, but thought it fell under driving without due care. |
To convict for an offence of driving without Due Care and Attention, the prosecution have to prove that the standard of riding or driving fell well below that expected of a reasonably competent driver, and the act of the nearside undertake on its own is insufficient.
If the rider is weaving from lane to lane, then that could be sufficient for a section 3 conviction depending on the circumstances, but on its own? No way!!!!!
The absolute offence of nearside overtake was removed from the statute books with the introduction of the 1972 Road Traffic Act, which left only the offence of careless driving, but the argument of reasonably competent driver still had to be addressed.
However, if a vehicle is sat in lane 2 or 3 when the inside lane is clear, then that driver will be commiting the offence of driving without reasonable consideration for other road users which is a sub section of section 3 (careless driving), but unfortunately the Police these days have no interest of doing anything about these w@nkers!!!!
So if anyone gets booked for careless driving for doing a similar thing (providing excess speed is not involved which is a separate matter) then contest it and plead not guilty.
Even in civil accident cases, the courts are now accepting that an undertake is permissable and drivers who have moved from the outside lane into the nearside lane without checking and end up taking out the undertaking motorcyclist have been found liable with no contributory negligence against the rider. ____________________ It is better to arrive 30 seconds late in this world, than 30 years early in the next |
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Oooh, I do believe I've seen this car over here in Sussex. So it's possibly doing the rounds.  ____________________ Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter won't mind - Dr. Seuss |
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I got pulled in my Alfa one night for coming up behind some twat in a deserted motorway sitting in the centre lane. I swerved round him/her and cut back into the inside line. A few hundred yards later, blue lights, siren, pull in.
I have no idea where the bastard came from, maybe one of those viewing points at the side of the motorway. Anyway pulled me and threatened me with careless for cutting up said lane hogger. When I said about him sitting in the middle lane, the cop said it wasn't my job to teach others the highway code in an aggressive manner and why didn't I just go past him in the inside lane . I was rather suprised at that I must admit.
He let me go with a bollocking, fair enough I suppose but I still feel it shouldn't have been me being pulled.
Oh, and when said lane hogger came past me and I bet he was laughing his cock off. ____________________ Victory Cross Country American tractor. |
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| T.C wrote: | | c_dug wrote: | At least he didn't try for the undertake, that would have taken the piss. The speeding you can't really argue with. |
Can't be booked for an offence that does not exist? |
Technically no, but I know 2 people that have got prosecuted for this. They turn it into DCA, or in both these cases, careless driving. [1]
At less than 90, on a motorway. That'll be 6 points and £500 please.....
I think it stinks, undertaking should be allowed due to the inept number of lane 2 and 3 dawdlers, but thems the rules boys
[1] Not to mention small child, who, when also pulled for a similar misdemeanor and told that filtering was illegal responded with "Oh that's great, so we have here people that enforce the law when they don't fucking understand it".....and promptly had a swift visit to the cells and a thorough bike checking over...... ____________________ Macie
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I got pulled by an un-marked car on the way to see a friend in hospital with TUG off here. I was leading, sitting in a single lane with a gold/beige Volvo estate in front sticking to 30mph, road then splits into two lanes, bus lane on the inside and I stupidly opened it up and went on the inside of the Volvo.... queue blue lights and a bollocking but luckily they were on their way to the same hospital and after explaining we were rushing as a friend had been in an accident, they let me off and said "see you there".
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 15 years, 131 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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