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P.addy
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 01 Jun 2011    Post subject: Unmarked Car on A2/M2 in Kent Reply with quote
Beware of a Jaguar XF, light blue/silver.. its a 10 plate ends in FZA..

Cheeky buggers have very odd choices of cars Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 01 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Saw that this morning going like stink. Very hard to spot.
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 01 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Was on the M2...saw a car booting it in the outside lane.. was like.. "ah silly bugger" 2 seconds later blues came on and it flew past Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 01 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
I thought they usually had skoda's around there.

Though I guess the reason for unmarked cars is to be undetectable so switching it up a bit is expected!
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 01 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's probably a demo car, Jaguar has been trying hard to get XFs on to police fleets.
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 01 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
That would be nice. Instead of this European stuff Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 01 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Fire up the Quattro! Good to know though, cheers for the heads up.
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PostPosted: 08:27 - 02 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
There is also a gun metal grey Seat cupra/leon doing the a2/m2.
Also an unmarked fireblade on the a20 (my mate got nicked by him last week).
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 02 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
kentpunkster wrote:
There is also a gun metal grey Seat cupra/leon doing the a2/m2.
Also an unmarked fireblade on the a20 (my mate got nicked by him last week).


In order to pull you, don't the officers have to be in uniform? The fireblade should be obvious as the guy will have to be wearing a big yellow jacket.
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 02 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
c-m wrote:
kentpunkster wrote:
There is also a gun metal grey Seat cupra/leon doing the a2/m2.
Also an unmarked fireblade on the a20 (my mate got nicked by him last week).


In order to pull you, don't the officers have to be in uniform? The fireblade should be obvious as the guy will have to be wearing a big yellow jacket.


Wasn't the case, he had on Arlen Ness one piece and plain black lid.
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 02 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Not saying it wasnt traffic but lots of unmarked cars that bomb up and down the A2/M2 are armed response and dont even bother you even when doing 100+. Good luck if you want to chance it and find out though.
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 02 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
My boss spotted this yesterday morning on the M20 as well, and he's not the biggest car/bike person but still spotted them.

Nosing around and it seems it is one of their new traffic cars.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 02 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
c-m wrote:
kentpunkster wrote:
There is also a gun metal grey Seat cupra/leon doing the a2/m2.
Also an unmarked fireblade on the a20 (my mate got nicked by him last week).


In order to pull you, don't the officers have to be in uniform? The fireblade should be obvious as the guy will have to be wearing a big yellow jacket.


Plain clothed officers would indicate otherwise.

But I have seen a Dorset unmarked bike with a rider in a hiviz jacket.
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 02 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've seen that silver Jag, along with a marked traffic BMW on the hard shoulder having just pulled a Porsche Boxter.

Must be a new tactic; baiting stockbrockers in flash cars.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 02 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
ive seen an unmarked bike round my parts and he doesnt wear any uniform or high viz. hes just got police shit on under his jacket, he pulled my mate over a few days ago

so i guess they dont need to be in uniform :s
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 02 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Last year there were a couple unmarked Hayabusa's in SE Kent for a while with the riders in plain leathers with no Hi-viz on. Not seen them for a while now so they may have gone elsewhere in the county.
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 03 Jun 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
When they tear past you in some poor lads yellow Evo, THEN you need to be worried.
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 09 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
I believe they can do you for driving without due care if they're unmarked, but speeding only if they're marked.

Not sure where I've heard this though....
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 09 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Frog wrote:
I believe they can do you for driving without due care if they're unmarked, but speeding only if they're marked.

Not sure where I've heard this though....


You can be nicked regardless of what they are wearing but I wouldn't stop for anything other that a marked car or bike. Too easy to buy blue lights these days.
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PostPosted: 00:54 - 09 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
sickpup wrote:
Frog wrote:
I believe they can do you for driving without due care if they're unmarked, but speeding only if they're marked.

Not sure where I've heard this though....


You can be nicked regardless of what they are wearing but I wouldn't stop for anything other that a marked car or bike. Too easy to buy blue lights these days.

Won't you get done for not stopping?
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PostPosted: 01:03 - 09 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
MinhDinh wrote:
Won't you get done for not stopping?


Highly unlikely.

iirc you are only obliged to stop for an officer in uniform. If an unmarked car or bike speeds up behind you and starts flashing it's lights you have no way of telling if it is a Police officer or not. The vehicles marking I would argue constitute in this situation a uniform therefore I wouldn't stop.

It's the argument for all Police vehicles being the same colour and having the same markings, so they are 'uniform'.
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PostPosted: 01:06 - 09 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
MinhDinh wrote:

You can be nicked regardless of what they are wearing but I wouldn't stop for anything other that a marked car or bike. Too easy to buy blue lights these days.

Won't you get done for not stopping?[/quote]

I don't think so, I'm sure someone else will be able to answer better though!

Although sure I've seen it on Road Wars and what not.

Edit - Meh messed the quotes up!
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PostPosted: 01:14 - 09 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
sickpup wrote:
MinhDinh wrote:
Won't you get done for not stopping?




Highly unlikely.

iirc you are only obliged to stop for an officer in uniform. If an unmarked car or bike speeds up behind you and starts flashing it's lights you have no way of telling if it is a Police officer or not. The vehicles marking I would argue constitute in this situation a uniform therefore I wouldn't stop.

It's the argument for all Police vehicles being the same colour and having the same markings, so they are 'uniform'.

Q587  /   What should I do if there is an unmarked police car travelling behind me flashing me to stop?
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The following is advice for anyone who feels vulnerable were she (or he) to stop. In many cases there may be several of you in the vehicle or you are confident you can deal with the situation, in which case this advice may not be for you.
An unmarked police car can stop vehicles, but it must contain a constable who MUST be in uniform in order to carry out the stop.
If a car flashing for you to pull over or stop is unmarked, unless you are 100% certain it is the police, do not stop. Drive steadily to the nearest public place (for example a petrol station where they are open till late, a police station or somewhere there are a lot of people) and then stop. If you are in a relatively deserted area, as a last resort, consider looking for a house that is obviously occupied and pull into the driveway. (You can always apologise to the householder afterwards.)
Try and signal that you have acknowledged the request to stop and indicate the action you are taking (put your flashers on or signal by pointing from the driver's window etc.). Don't drive off at great speed making the police think you are trying to get away.
Keep the doors locked until you are happy it is the police. Have your mobile at hand just in case. You can ask to see a warrant card, which should carry a name and photograph, through the closed window.
Incidentally, if you are suspected of drink/drugs driving none of these actions would invalidate an officer giving you a preliminary screening test as you have only temporarily interrupted your journey and are still driving for the purposes of that law.



https://m.askthe.police.uk/content/Q587.htm?viewsinglecontentelementid=14920


So it seems you are right. I would think it applies to bike cops too.
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 10 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
only ever saw skoda's around that area, the occasional ford in canterbury that was about it. Good thing i never got spotted i was normally doing stupid speeds along the the thant way.
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 10 Jul 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
sickpup wrote:
MinhDinh wrote:
Won't you get done for not stopping?


Highly unlikely.

iirc you are only obliged to stop for an officer in uniform. If an unmarked car or bike speeds up behind you and starts flashing it's lights you have no way of telling if it is a Police officer or not. The vehicles marking I would argue constitute in this situation a uniform therefore I wouldn't stop.

It's the argument for all Police vehicles being the same colour and having the same markings, so they are 'uniform'.


I think its pretty bloody obvious by the time they start flashing their blue lights!
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